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Commento di Benegesserit

If you use this, then may God have mercy on your soul.

Commento di mordre

Much like the other Primal transmutes, this recipe would be discovered by random chance while you were performing another transmutation.

Commento di 7599

I got this discovery while transmuting earth to water.

I really, really wish it would have been the other direction :(

Commento di 25980

Totally useless as it is now. Primal Shadows goes for like 3g each on AH, while Primal Water goes for like 30g. Meaning you could sell your Primal Water to buy 10 Primal Shadow instead of doing this horrific transmute.

Commento di Chillincold

Guide to discovering potions/flasks/elixirs/transmutes.

For the casual gamer:
- Make sure your transmutation is always on cooldown. (You would probably log in at the same time everyday for a few hours, so keep a few reagents in your bag and do a transmute everytime its up.)

- Make potions and elixirs that you use although buying them from the auction house maybe cheaper than buying the reagents. ( You would probably have a cash flow set back so my advice is to have your second profession as herbalism to have a continuous supply of your own reagents.)

- Make yourself known to your guildmates and in game friends that you are an alchemist so that when party/raid members run low on potions/elixirs you can make some on the spot and charge them for it. (Try to keep stock of vials and herbs for potions/elixirs that move fast e.g netherbloom, terocone, mountain silversage, felweed, dreaming glory, etc...)

- My personal recomendations to such a gamer is to be a potion master. (Please don't flame me with your never ending argument on which mastery is better. I just think that a casual gamer trying to be a mobile alchemy auction house, potions are the most likely item people run out of that are essential to a raid/heroic.)

For the power gamer:
- Your transmutation timer has no excuse to be up. (If you're absent minded or loose track of time, set an alarm.)

- Make potions and elixirs that suffice your usage. Craft the item of your chosen mastery. Spread your crafts on a few items so you don't flood the auction house with one item. You should be able to be the most competetive seller since your procs yield you extra items. ( After a week or two you will be familiar with the items that sell and those that dont. Make more of the ones that do sell.)

- Make macros to advertise yourself as an alchemist on general chat when you cross teritories and trade chat when ur at a major city. (I find that listing some of your best potions/elixirs/flasks helps because not everyone is an alchemist and not everyone knows the available items in alchemy.)

- My personal recomendations to such a gamer is to be a elixir master. (Please don't flame me with your never ending argument on which mastery is better. I just think that a power gamer can spread his liabilities as there are a lot more elixirs compared to potions and such a gamer would be able to gather materials to create flasks {falls under elixir mastery}.)

Tips
- Always have reagents in your bag. If you run low on bag space priorotise for reagents on tansmutations.

- Make frequent trips to the auction house to know prices or download a mod that helps do it for you. I have mods but I still rely on my memory for all alchemy stuff because for alchemy its not an average of price over time. Its the price on that day, that week or that month. If your server is in end game you will be looking at completely different prices of all alchemy items compared to a server that has newly begun.

- Make frequent trips to the auction house to know your competitiors. If you can't beat their prices make a pact with them (e.g. you make certain items they make certain items, or if you're different masteries you should recomend your fellow customers to each other.)

- {More for power gamers} Be up to date on how far and how fast your server is progressing. This way you can be the first to be there with the items. (e.g. I sold more than 250 stacks of greater arcane protection potions alothough i knew how to make major arcane protection potions. At this point in time we're 3-4 months into the expansion and most players are still trying to save up cash or simply can't afford the major potions. On my server now, most guilds dont need them for the curator fight in karazhan but before they were experienced in taking him down they we're willing to pay my outrageous prices to have an edge on the encounters.)

Commento di Chillincold

Dirty tricks:
Knowing the backdoors in every game and business encounter definately helps. Since this is the low down section of my thread, and undenyably unscrupulous. I will only let you in on one of the not so sinster of my plots. (For my own conscience sake I don't want to corrupt the world.)

- {For herbalists} If you know of an item that sells well but its reagents are never on the auction house, create an alternate character and park him at an auction house. Advertise items that require this reagent and sell it for double or triple the price on your alternate character so that the buyer doesn't know that its you. (e.g. Not many people know about greater arcane elixir, and its a great elixir for casters altough its a lower level elixir compared to post TBC items. I sell reagents such as dreamfoil and mountain silversage at triple the normal price on my alternate character. My customers usually ask me if they are usually that expensive, I either tell them "Yeah thats the normal price nowadays." or "Thats cheap!!")

From past experience I have to state this for my peace of mind. Please dont send me a mail or ask me for more details on the "Dirty tricks" section. Thank you for reading my post, and if you slept half way... DUDE/DUDET you missed out, what were you thinking trying to sleep in one of my lectures!

Commento di 1718

I got this from going earth->water as well.

I got all excited until I asked how much primal shadow goes for. So so sad.

Commento di 65040

Where do you get this recipe or skill? Primal Shadow goes for a fortune on my server and Primal Water is cheap.

Commento di 53225

As of 2.10 blizzard removed mote of shadow from the drop list of *all* demons, making primal shadows a little trickier to farm up. I could see this being decent on a couple servers.

Commento di Samboda

Possible primal transmutes are :

Air ==> Fire ==> Earth ==> Water ==> Air

Fire <=> Mana

Earth <=> Life

Water <=> Shadow

Commento di 53873

you can find many voids in hellfire peninsula at 77.64

Commento di Mutre

So you have to be Master Transmutator to discover this, huh ? ...

Commento di Kiyah

I discovered this today and I have to say i was quite pleased. Primal Shadow are now about 3-5g more expensive then Primal Water on my server so this isn't useless at all anymore.

It's great to transmute Earth to Water and Water to Primal Shadow on the days that I don't need to save up for a Might.

Commento di Toldry

....................TRANSMUTES....................
...............................................................
.....Mana <->Fire <-Air...............................
.....................|.......^.................................
....................v........|.................................
.....Life <-> Earth -> Water <-> Shadow......
...............................................................

Commento di Ludwick

Requirements to make a discovery

You must be crafting a potion, elixir, flask or performing a transmutation that was added in TBC.

As a rule of thumb that's anything that is learnt from a master alchemy trainer, dropped from a mob in outland or purchased from a vendor in outland. The only real exceptions are the pre-TBC flasks that have been made available from faction vendors in outland.

NOT requirements to make a discovery

You don't need to be in outland
You don't need a mastery
You don't need to be 375 alchemy
You don't need to be level 70
You don't need to craft yellow or orange recipes to make discoveries. Even grey recipes can proc discoveries
You don't need to be crafting a related recipe *except* in the case of cauldrons (You can discover flasks when making potions for example)

List of recipes learned by discovery (accurate as of 29/01/2008)

Flasks

Potions

Super Rejuvenation Potion

Transmutes

Cauldrons - To discover these you need to be crafting the related major protection potion. Cauldron of Major Holy Protection is believed to be non-existent. The discovery of these recipes is much more likely.
Cauldron of Major Arcane Protection
Cauldron of Major Fire Protection
Cauldron of Major Frost Protection
Cauldron of Major Nature Protection
Cauldron of Major Shadow Protection

Commento di 37322

Lol the Picture is wrong it should be the other way around, if anyone else noticed that

Commento di 177317

I discovered this while I was transmuting primal might.

Commento di Bubonic

For those who are trying to discover these transmutes, it is still possible, although I think that it may happen only with primal transmutes now (not including Transmute Primal Might). I spent about five months doing daily gem transmutes (Cardinal Ruby, etc.) along with as many primal mights as I could (2-5 per day) and didn't make a single discovery. Even though I had read that these discoveries were possible with just about any transmute, I switched solely to the primal transmutes (with the cooldown). Since then I've discovered two primal transmutes (Primal Water to Shadow and Primal Earth to Life) in about three weeks. I'd like to know if anyone else has made a primal discovery lately with any other kind of transmute; if not, it seems like primal transmutes are your best bet for discoveries right now.

Update: Discovered the last two primal transmutes I was missing in the next week.

Commento di 673059

So far I did not discover a single BC elemental transmute by doing

BC potions/elixirs
BC Primal Might
WotLK potions/elixirs
WotLK elemental, titan and gem transmutes

Whereas I discovered all WotLK elemental transmutes from either transmuting saronite into titan or doing WotLK elemental transmutes.

A few days ago I pushed my reputation with Sporeggar to revered.
Since then I did 5 x Transmute: Primal Earth to Water with no discovery and no proc (Transmutation Master) so far ...

Update: 2 days ago a GM finally confirmed that there currently is a problem with BC transmutes not triggering discoveries of other transmutes.

Commento di Fist

..............PRIMAL TRANSMUTES AND THEIR SOURCES.................
...............FtoM......MtoF.............Almaador......................................
.....Mana<------------------>Fire <---------------------Air.................................
.................A: Narasu...........|.................................^.........A, H:................
.................H: Nasela...........v.................................|.....Fedryen Swiftspear.
.....Life <------------------> Earth -------------------> Water <----------> Shadow
...........EtoL..........LtoE..........Mycah.....................StoW......WtoS

DISCOVERY-driven recipies:
Fire to Mana
Mana to Fire

Earth to Life
Life to Earth

Shadow to Water
Water to Shadow

REPUTATION requirements:
Recipe: Transmute Primal Water to Air
Primal Air to Fire (REVERED)
A: Primal Fire to Earth (REVERED)
H: Primal Fire to Earth (REVERED)

Commento di Allakhazam

Crafting on argent dawn although ill just give you a shadow from my bags >.<

Commento di Allakhazam

discovered this while making a primal might!

well, pretty useless recipe =(

Commento di Thottbot

This is so useless... Primal Shadow on my server is about 60 silver to 1 gold. Maybe 2g if you're very lucky. While water is around 15g. Lol. Such a useless transmute.

Commento di Thottbot

If I ever discovered this, I'd jump off the Aldor Rise :(

Commento di Thottbot

God bless mommy and daddy and Jeffy and Kevin and Brian.

And please God, never ever let me discover this pos transmute because I would QQ for years and people will hate me and tell me to not QQ but I won’t stop because it’s really that bad.

Love,
Payce

Commento di Thottbot

!oneone

Commento di Thottbot

I got this today standong in the middle of Stormwind on Andorhol server, people sent me tells laughing. I proceeded to teleport to Shat and run south till I fell off of outland.

Commento di Thottbot

Funny how months ago Shadow was worthless, and now that people are progressed past Kara and no longer killing mobs that drop shadow how the prices change and the demand still exists....

I kinda actually need a shadow atm, and have lots of water saved up from transmuting earth, hence I must go farm some now :(

I don't know why anyone wouldn't want to have every transmute possible, you never know when someone is going to want it and you can charge them a pretty penny for it. Economics and item drops always fluctuate. Just look at the history of Arcane crystals (and I do mean of course the time before time, back when they didn't come out of small thorium veins like water).

Don't know what an Arcane crystal is? guess you didn't play much before The Burning Crusade expansion came out.

Commento di Thottbot

I know what it is! I remember buying them for 30g to create Arcanite to sell for like 35g

Now they cost 50s

Whilst arcanite still sells for at least 20g a bar on my server.

In my opinion things are a lot better now!

Smoke, Frostmane EU

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Transmute: Primal Water to Shadow

Transmute: Primal Water to Shadow

25 s di lancio	1 giorno di recupero

Strumenti:

Philosopher's Stone

Reagenti:

Primal Water

Transmutes Primal Water into Primal Shadow.

Primal Shadow (2)
Livello dell’oggetto 65

Massima Pila: 20

Prezzo di vendita: 40

Bottino da: Doom Lord Kazzak

Probabilità di apparire: 71.79%

Reagenti

	Primal Water (1)
	Create Primal Water (1)
	Mote of Water (1)
	Transmute: Primal Earth to Water (1)
	Primal Earth (1)
	Create Primal Earth (1)
	Mote of Earth (1)
	Transmute: Primal Fire to Earth (1)
	Primal Fire (1)
	Create Primal Fire (1)
	Mote of Fire (1)
	Transmute: Primal Air to Fire (1)
	Primal Air (1)
	Create Primal Air (1)
	Mote of Air (1)
	Transmute: Primal Mana to Fire (1)
	Primal Mana (1)
	Create Primal Mana (1)
	Mote of Mana (1)
	Transmute: Primal Life to Earth (1)
	Primal Life (1)
	Create Primal Life (1)
	Mote of Life (1)
	Transmute: Primal Shadow to Water (1)
	Primal Shadow (1)
	Create Primal Shadow (1)
	Mote of Shadow (1)

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n/d

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0 metri (Self)

Tempo di lancio

25 secondi

Recupero

1 giorno

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0 secondi

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Create Item

	Primal Shadow

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Transmute: Primal Water to Shadow

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