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------- Legion 7.0 Feral Theory ---------

TL;DR: Feral got nice options. Incoming 6900 character wall of text! This post has been done for my own theorycrafting, not for your enjoyment. Use it if it helps. Abilities may have changed after 2016-06-20. Sorry for horrible english. I blame my teachers. Posted to both Savage Roar and Jagged Wounds page on wowhead.

CP = Combo Points
FB = Ferocious Bite
SR = Savage Roar
JW = Jagged Wounds
TF = Tigers Fury

So I'm seeing several different levels of "energy/CP consumption intensity" to play around with as Feral. I imagine this will increase Haste value as Feral stat.

Mostly it's the two level 75 talents "Incarnation" VS "Savage Roar", and the two level 90 talents "Jagged Wounds" VS "Elune's Guidance" that will affect how Feral will play out and how much energy/CP you need.

Incarnation = Berserk lasts 30 seconds instead of 15. That may seem like a huge +100% buff to Berserk, but maybe isn't.
In PvP this means you can just wait and pool energy if opponent uses defensive cooldowns since Berserk outlasts them.
In PvE you won't have much energy left to play around with after the first 15 seconds because you spent it already. The last 15 seconds will only be 20-50% as strong as the first 15 seconds.

Savage Roar (SR) = 30% damage increase, down from 40%. Now has a duration of 24 seconds, down from 42 with five CP. Same duration as Rip. So one of them has to be refreshed every 12 seconds. CP that could be used on FB has to be used on SR. Will it be hard/impossible now to keep up Rip on 2 or more targets without SR falling off? Maybe this works best on single target bosses.

Jagged Wounds = 33% shorter bleed, same damage. So Rip lasts 16 seconds and Rake 10 seconds? Decent dps increase if 100% uptime. Every 9,6 seconds (down from 12) would one of SR and Rip have to be refreshed.

Elune's Guidance = instant 5 CP + another 5 CP over 5 seconds. 45 seconds cooldown. Maybe burst with 3 FBs? Can be used to set everything up fast at the start of a boss. Can be used every other or every third Tiger's Fury. Can be used with SR talent to get SR + Rip up within seconds. But a 5 second headstart on a 5-minute boss fight may be negligible.

So I'm seeing Incarnation and Elune's Guidance as burst and dps cooldown type talents.
SR and Jagged Wounds seem passive, slower, just buffing already existing abilities, but puts demands on your CP/energy bar. Which one of them has the highest effect on dps/energy?

So we have four alternatives depending on CP/energy masochism:

1. Low energy intensity: No SR, no JW. Spend 5 CP on Rip every 24 seconds, and FB whenever. "Noob mode? Play with your feet mode? Unlimited energy mode?"

2. Normal energy intensity: JW but no SR. Rake more often, Shred less. Spend 5 CP on Rip every 16 seconds, FB whenever. "Cataclysm style? Noob mode x1,5?"

3. High energy intensity: SR but no JW. Spend 5 CP on one out of two abilities, Rip and SR, every 12 seconds. FB less. "Time to step up your game-mode?"

4. Extreme energy intensity: SR and JW. SR every 24 sec. Rip every 16 sec. Spend 5 CP on one of those every 9,6 seconds. Neither Incarnation nor Elune's Guidance is available for CP generation.
"Turbo-Kitty-Mode? There's a black hole in your energy bar-mode? Something is always about to run out-mode? Where is your Ashamane now-mode?"

For reference:
2.2. WoD style: Savage Roar every 42 seconds, Rip every 24 seconds. Spend 5 CP on one of those two every 15,3 seconds. "Was it all a bad dream-mode?"

For alternative 4 and 2.2 , if you think the numbers 9,6 and 15,3 seconds seem weird, I agree. I thought the answer would be half the average of the two durations - 10 and 16,5 seconds - but it's not. Count the total number of Rip/SR durations that run out over 48 seconds in alternative 4, and 84 seconds in 2.2! You'll get 5 and 5,5 durations respectively, giving you (48/5=) 9,6 and (84/5,5=) 15,3 as the average time before something runs out.

Anyway, the difference between needing 5 CP for a particular ability every 24 seconds, or every 9,6 seconds is quite massive. Both option 3 and 4 seem harder than what we had in WoD, but other abilities added/removed may reduce our rotation difficulty to be on par with what we had in WoD.

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Let's look at Legion Feral rotation-startup with SR + JW + Bloodtalons.

For the table below:
GCD = the global cooldown or second an ability is used. Varies depending on crits giving 2x CP. The first number is the fastest possible scenario to reach that ability with all crits. The second number is the worst possible with no crits.
Abilities used also get shuffled around slightly depending on crits. Notice "..or.." separating abilities for the two scenarios.
0-75% = the current damage buffs. SR give 30%, Bloodtalons give 30%, and Tigers Fury give 15%. I wrote them additively instead of multiplicatively to ease understanding.
Rake lasts for 10 sec and should be refreshed at or below 3 sec left, to get up to 3 sec bonus duration on next duration.
Berserk and Tigers Fury uses no global cooldown. They can be activated mid-cast.
Worst case scenario should be expected, anything else is a bonus. Input delay can make Berserk run out before 15 abilities has been used.

OPTION 1: SR then Rip

GCD __%__Ability used______
1--1 _0%_ Rake + Berserk
2--2 _____ Shred x2-4 until 5 CP
4--6 _____ SR to get Predatory Swiftness
5--7 +30% Tigers Fury below 30 energy. Shred x2 until 4CP ..or.. Rake x1 and Shred x4 until 5 CP.
7-12 _____ Healing Touch to get Bloodtalons
8-13 +75% TF + Rake to get 5 CP ..or.. TF + Rip
9-14 +75% Rip ..or.. Rake

Best case scenario Rip is delayed for 5 sec compared to Option 2. Maxed combo up in 9 sec.
Worst case scenario Rip is delayed for 7 sec and Rake is refreshed 1 extra time wasting 4 sec duration (7 energy in Berserk).

OPTION 2: Rip, SR, Rip

GCD ___%___Ability used______
1---1 __0%_ Rake + Berserk
2---2 ______ Shred x2-4 until 5 CP
4---6 ______ Rip to get Predatory Swiftness
5 __________Shred x1 if Rake >5 sec left
6 __________Shred x1 if Rake >4 sec left
7---7 ______ Healing Touch to get Bloodtalons
8---8 _+30% Rake
8---9 ___ 0% Shred x2-4 until 5 CP
9--13 ______ SR to get Predatory Swiftness
10-14 +30% Tigers Fury below 30 energy. Shred x3 until 5 CP ..or.. Shred x4 until 4 CP
13-18 ______ Healing Touch to get Bloodtalons
14-19 +75% TF + Rip ..or.. TF + Rake to get 5 CP
15-20 +75% TF + Rake ..or.. TF + Rip
18 _________ or save 1 stack of Bloodtalon + Rake by pooling until 3 sec left and TF is still active

Best case scenario, compared to Option 1, Tigers Fury is delayed 5-6 sec. +75% Rip is delayed 5 sec but gets +30% duration. +75% Rake is delayed 10 sec or 7 sec wasting 5 energy.
Worst case scenario Berserk runs out, not enough energy, Tigers Fury and +75% Rake/Rip all delayed by 7 sec.

Conclusion is that starting SR should be recommended.

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