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1.	Cuore di Fiamma
2.	Roba da leggende

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Commento di link428

Here are some numbers for how long this part of the quest should take. This assumes the following:

8 per 25N boss / 10.08 per 25H boss
4.256 per 10N boss / 7.2 per 10H boss
None from Ragnaros

On 10 man:
H Bosses N Bosses # per Clear # of Weeks
0 6 26 10
1 5 28 9
2 4 31 9
3 3 34 8
4 2 37 7
5 1 40 7
6 0 43 6
On 25 man:
H Bosses N Bosses # per Clear # of Weeks
0 6 48 6
1 5 50 5
2 4 52 5
3 3 54 5
4 2 56 5
5 1 58 5
6 0 60 5
Edit: Updated for the hotfix (44% lower 25H, 33% higher 10N)

Commento di 876107

anyone else think that 14 weeks for this quest ALONE is a little ridiculous for 10m guilds? i know this staff isnt just ANY staff but geez, this is gonna take me forever, since i am only up to like 50 cinders atm

Commento di speakeasy

Hadn't seen this posted yet and it seemed fairly important:

To loot the item from normal mode Ragnaros, you must survive the entire encounter with Rage of Ragnaros and, when Rag submerges, the item Heart of Flame will spawn in the center of the lava. I died getting it, but I'm sure it's possible to cooldown through it.

Again, the Heart of Flame will spawn in the center of the lava pool Rag emerges from if the person with 250 souls survives the fight with Rage of Ragnaros.

Commento di timmai

We’ve decided to revert the drop rate change for 10-player heroic Firelands completely. We’ll also be slightly buffing the drop rates in 10-player normal. In the end, we should get the following results:

25-player heroic has 44% lower drop rates in phase 3 relative to 4.2 launch.
25-player normal remains unchanged from 4.2 launch.
10-player heroic remains unchanged from 4.2 launch.
10-player normal has 33% higher drop rates in phase 3 relative to 4.2 launch.

We plan to hotfix the new rates into place as soon as possible, and we should see them in-place pre-raid this evening barring unforeseen complications.

I wonder if people will abandon their usual 25 mans(with their main, at least) on the last stage to go do other 10/25 mans to get started on smoldering essences while there is overlap.

Point being, now 10 mans will be getting more smoldering essences/player than 25 mans will, comparatively. Dumb move, why not just do a flat 30% nerf to everything or something.

Commento di VindicoSolus

Do NOT ~~race change~~, faction change, or server transfer during this quest. You will lose all progress and the Game Masters will not restore the quest to it's previous criteria level.

UPDATE: Race Changing no longer clears your quest log.

When the service initially launched, all quests were cleared. However, we have since made changes that prevent any quests from being cleared - all quests will remain. Please note, quests still are cleared for Faction Changes, and this may result in certain race-specific quests still being present on the newly changed character, despite being impossible to complete. Also, some quest items that persist after a quest is completed will still be removed.

Source: http://us.battle.net/support/en/article/race-change-faq#22

EDIT: I am placing this here for better visibility. Credit goes to Marluk (Thanks for the info, by the way):

"If you are part of the guild transfer in the new guild master services, you will NOT lose any progress. As proof of this, during the guild transfer from the in game link you are given, it clearly states that your quest log (and subsequently quest progress) will remain intact. Please do not fear to transfer your guild because you think you will lose any progress. Blizzard does understand servers are dieing and wants you to have every opportunity to pay them to fix it."

Commento di Syber

Actually 10 man's nomals were at a disadvantage prior to this hotfix, so in reality this will bring them a little closer to 25m's though it's still not exactly even. So much for balance.

Commento di dark99

Drops rate for 10m normal is 3 to 5 by boss. I was getting a average of 3.9.
Only got 3 on Baleroc bacause i only needed 3 to finish my quest :)

My drop

Weeks              1st    2nd    3rd    4th    5th     6th    7th    8th    9th    10th    11th
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Beth tilac            3       4       5       3       4       4       5       5       4       3       5
Shannox             5       4       3       5       5       3       4       5       3       3      n/a
Lord Rhyolith       3       5       3       3       3       5       4       3       3       4       4
Alysrazor            3       5       4       4       4       3       5       5       5       5       5
Baleroc               3       3       4       4       3       5       3       5       4       4       3
Majordomo          3       3       5       5       3       5       3       3       3       3      n/a
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Total                  20      24     24     24     22      25     24     26     22     22     17

Commento di Skez

Here's some statistics over my last week(s) of gathering the essences (all bosses are on 25-man):

2/10-2011
Baleroc the Gatekeeper (Normal) - 7
Majordomo Staghelm (Normal) - 8

5/10-2011
Shannox (Heroic) - 11
Lord Rhyolith (Heroic) - 11
Alysrazor (Heroic) - 11

9/10
Beth'thilac (Heroic) - 9
Baleroc the Gatekeeper (Normal) - 8
Majordomo Staghelm (Normal) - 7

12/10-2011
Shannox (Heroic) - 15
Lord Rhyolith (Heroic) - 3
Alysrazor (Heroic) - 11
Beth'tilac (Heroic) - 9

As you can see you can get as low as 3 essences from a heroic 25-man boss which seems pretty odd to me.

Commento di Necropenguin

Much like during the quest Il tempo corre, every few hours you will get an emoted messaged declaring "You feel a surge of power as Tarecgosa's essence manifests itself."

It's neat, but only for flavor. There actually is no buff or surge of power.

ADDENDUM: Well, it only took Blizzard the entire remainder of the the expansion to fix the stupid problem, but Tarecgosa now properly talks to you during the quest chain from inside your own body. ...Would have been nice to have this during the actual quest, but sure, why not, fix it when the staff will be replaced in a few weeks...

Commento di Luvaria

Anyone know if you have to be wearing the 391 staff from the quest in order for the dead bosses to have the buff to siphon? I got lucky and got the staff from H Rag on our first kill a week ago and I'm just now on this quest, so I don't want to make this take longer than it needs to and waste bosses if I need to use the worse weapon to get the legendary.

Commento di 815840

Can someone tell me how we get this quest started? :S

Commento di Necropenguin

I have to give a warning about race, class and/or faction changing with parts of this legendary quest chain active. When you pay Blizzard for any of those services you also get a complimentary quest log wipe as part of the process.

What this means is that you will have this quest removed from your quest log. What that will do for this particular quest I can't say for sure because, unlike with L'occhio che tutto vede and Il tempo corre, the "smouldering essence" you have to collect is not actually a physical object that you possess in you Inventory. If this quest get removed, you very well could lose all progress you have made towards it.

Now, I can't say for sure that you'd be utterly screwed over like that, and maybe the GMs after a little digging could restore previous progress... but do you really want to be the one to test this? So heads up, I'd recommend against big paid changes to race, class or faction while on the collect parts of this quest, and this one most specifically.

Commento di 362218

If you are part of the guild transfer in the new guild master services, you will NOT lose any progress. As proof of this, during the guild transfer from the in game link you are given, it clearly states that your quest log (and subsequently quest progress) will remain intact. Please do not fear to transfer your guild because you think you will lose any progress. Blizzard does understand servers are dieing and wants you to have every opportunity to pay them to fix it.

From above.

This was confirmed after ticketing a GM, who said we would indeed lose all our progress, only we actually didn't.

Commento di Kazlehoff

"Many 10 player raids are not on quite the same skill or dedication level as some 25 player raids."

Bull@#$% 25 man bias.

" See the top 20 guilds in the world for progression. See also, only 4 are 10 player guilds"

10 Man raiding has only become competitive for world firsts this expac, and due to the challenge of raid comp in such a smaller environment, i'm not overly surprised

"I'm not trying to argue that they are better than you and thus they deserve it more"

Look at your top quote again.

"I'm saying they spent a lot of time on the PTR before the patch was released and then cleared 7/7 the first week on normal. That, in addition to getting more per boss kill, gave these guilds an immense head start."

First part: more 25m bias. 2nd part is the only reason they had an immense head start. 25 and 25h were droping components at almost a 2 or 3 to one ratio. THAT and ONLY THAT gave these guilds an immense head start.

"I can say that by making it 3 to 1, they kept the ratio of dps with the staff to dps without the staff similar between 10 and 25."

Except no, because with 4.3 looming (tenatively) on the 29th of this month, 25m guilds are comming up on what, four now? and 10 man guilds are comming up on.... the cinders gathering for a 2nd staff if they were 6/7 heroic in week 2? right. totally similar.

"I feel at this point the hang-up many people who are angry about the disparity are having is that they are not seeing this on a raid to raid basis, but seeing this on a player to player basis. They see a 25 player guild and see three complete staves and then see their own guild, not yet 7/7 heroic, or even 3/7 heroic, struggling to complete their first staff, and get upset. Why do they get three if we can't have one?

To those people, just remember, those guilds with 3 in their raid team very very likely spent time on the PTR as a guild raiding before the raid was released, those people were also very, very likely geared with heroic T11 content when the patch hit. Those people will likely be heroic T12 geared now. And are also probably going to be a lot more ready for the new patch as well."

More 25 man bias. so 10 man guilds dont spend time on the PTR and cant be farther than 3/12?

There is definitely an unfair advantage to players in a 25 player guild. Fewer pieces get disenchanted. More gear goes to players who need it. More gear means easier kills, which means faster progression.

There was an unfair advantage to players in a 25 player guilds.

loot in 10 mans has allways been an issue because blizzards random loot isnt very (or is too) random. its enough of a problem it was brought up at blizzcon.

Commento di Railander

just to make this clear, Ragnaros won't drop essences even if you defeat him on Heroic difficulty.

Commento di 912256

What happens if you have the rage of ragnaros debuff, but you ice block a lava wave.
Does the ice block remove the rage of ragnaros debuff?

Commento di 891438

are Levitate and water walking helps to loot heart or that wont work ?

Commento di 920178

Do NOT race change, faction change, or server transfer during this quest. You will lose all progress and the Game Masters will not restore the quest to it's previous criteria level.

I confirm this. I was at 210/250 before I did the faction change, I was careless enough to believe friends that were on cinders and embers that the quest does not reset although I had my doubts because I did not have actual quest items in my bag.
After the transfer all my progress was gone back to 0/250 and when i pugged it didnt restart from where i was left it just started back from 0 (that was my last hope).
GM response: "I am really sorry, I can understand what you feel but there is nothing we can do to fix it, you need me for anything else?"

I cannot believe that they cannot just confirm the progress on the quest before the PAYED faction change, and just fix it, for them its only a database number, for me it is 10 weeks of bloody effort to get an already outdated item that just has been "payed" by the months i payed to get it...

If blizzard cannot fix such simple things, I do not know if this game is worth paying for anymore.

Commento di Dzor

Do NOT race change, faction change, or server transfer during this quest. You will lose all progress and the Game Masters will not restore the quest to it's previous criteria level.

Server transferred 2 weeks ago and didn't lose any of my essences (got 160/250 etc). I guess they have fixed atleast server transfer issue..

Commento di 93453

Does anybody know whether multiple people in the same raid can get the essences off the same boss for this part of the quest chain?

Commento di Tooter

My question (which I haven't seen addressed here yet) is:

Can the Heart of Flame be looted on a HEROIC Ragnaros kill? Or is it ONLY attainable after a normal kill?

Commento di TheLostBard

On the topic of 25-man bias, I'd like to point out that while 25-man raids get the staff on average 100% faster than the 10-man version, they have 150% the people working on the quest. Yes they can get one faster, but two and a half 10-mans can finish in less time that a 25-man can do it twice. On top of that, finding 25 people who can work together and will actually keep at it for the months it takes to finish is a feat unto itself. I'm in a 10-man group myself, and even keeping that many people interested in finishing is a strain. I'm just saying don't look at it only from how long it takes to finish, but how many people are working in it together.

Commento di Kinetika

im not sure, but... i did till this quest fireland runs and when got this quest i made 10man, nothing droped form any boss, this week i made 25hc and... problem... here it goes... i killed all bosses and the quest items never droped...whats problem? as it said it can be 1-3per boss, but why none? whats the thing, is it this quest right now bugged or im not doing it right?

Commento di Rincewindd

For the Beth'tilac fight be careful you do not kill the boss too fast, because she will sometimes not fall to the ground preventing the Smouldering Essences from being obtained if you died or went onto the ground. Gl and have fun with the rest of the Firelands! :)

Commento di 150843

do you have to wait for reset after you get your essences for the heart to drop?

Commento di ricangsxrdude

Also make sure you agree upon on who is doing the Smouldering Essences because you can only loot once per boss and GMs will not give you essences if someone else took them before you. Just happened to me where the RL kept his mouth shut when asked, and went around pulling the essences acting all coy.

Commento di Vomitory

It's only my first week running H25 Firelands for this quest (12/26/2014), however, each boss gave me 11 Smouldering Essences apiece, while Ragnaros himself just despawns after you've killed him and doesn't give any at all. Not sure if this is coincidence, or if maybe it's just a set number now that this legendary quest is two expansions old.

Commento di Colepriest

The heart is behind the boss if you're like me and have your pov close to you.

Commento di Morgomir

do not skin Beth'tilac before someone siphons the essence or it will despawn the cloud
my girlfriend found this out the hard way

Commento di SiliconX

I love the quest text for this.

I would have you venture one last time into the Plane of Fire and bring me the heart of Ragnaros.

One last time? Pretty sure I'm going to be heading back there a LOT more than once to finish this quest.

Commento di vindurza

incase you're wondering no you can not obtain essence off the bosses you killed/haven't killed if you have entered the raid before obtaining the quest.

Commento di Ducklipz233

You need to use the staff on the bosses corp, I found it easier to wear the staff or you have to wait 25 secs after you equip it to use it. At lvl 120 now it's still easy to kill them while wearing it. Just did it on 25man hc and got 60 of them. Didn't work on Ragnaros.

Hope this helps as it's a newer post!

Commento di Sarthorius

Can this be done in both difficulties in same week as we can now with previous collecting quests?

Commento di Pepan92

You can do this in one week if you have more ALTS which are 80lvl+ and can enter Firelands. (this is good if you have no friends :( )

Reason is that you don't need to loot bosses, you just need to use staff to siphon the essence from the corpses.

For example, I did this on my Druid (character on which I'm doing this quest), cleared all bosses on normal and heroic except Ragnaros as he is dropping the Heart of Flame
YOU CAN LOOT IT FROM RAGNAROS IT ONLY IF YOU HAVE ALL 250 ESSENCES

How to do this quest in one week?:

Clear all bosses except Ragnaros on normal and heroic difficulty on the char where you have the quest for legendary staff
Now, you are saved so you need other lockout where bosses are alive, log in, your ALT and create group in dungeon finder, for example in the custom section
Exit game or logout and log back into the char with legendary quest, go to dungeon finder and join the group you created with ALT, then log out or exit game
Login to your ALT and accept your character application in dungeon finder, logout and log back in the char with quest
Accept the invite from your ALT and again log out and log back in to your ALT, then enter the dungeon on your ALT and log out or exit game.
Last login to your char with a quest (in my case it was Druid) and enter the dungeon, all bosses are alive and you can kill them and siphon the corpses
After you cleared all bosses, leave the raid on the char with quest do the same with another ALT

Normal mode gave me around 32 essences where heroic gave me 57.

Commento di adamfazai

Another way of doing this fast:

Do both normal and HC versions, get your essences.
Get out of dungeon and politely ask ppl who are outside and want to in,
if they are not saved they can invite you, when bosses get killed u dont get loot, but u can use staff for their essence.
You can even ask them to do both versions.

When you got all of your essence, after killing Ragnaros, dont panic, w8 little bit then u can finish the quest by click on it.

Commento di brhino4vets

I compiled a STEP-BY-STEP LIST detailing how to get this final part done in one sitting. Other posts got a little disorganized and outdated.

Create custom group on ALT via LFG
Log out of ALT
Log in to MAIN/QUESTER - sign up for ALT's group
Log out of MAIN/QUESTER
Log in to ALT - invite MAIN/QUESTER to group
Log out of ALT
Log in to MAIN/QUESTER - accept invite from ALT
Log out of MAIN/QUESTER
Log in to ALT - enter dungeon
Log out of ALT
Log in MAIN/QUESTER - Enter Dungeon and siphon all bosses besides Rag
Leave dungeon - log out of MAIN/QUESTER
Log in to ALT - leave dungeon
Wait outside on ALT until MAIN/QUESTER is demoted from leader
Disband group - Reset all instances
Repeat from Step 1 until you have 250/250 Smouldering Essences
Kill Ragnaros and obtain Cuore di Fiamma, it will be where he was standing during the fight and you have to loot it from the ground.
Go turn it in, do the RP finisher, and you'll have Drachira, Requie di Tarecgosa, congrats.

Commento di Drist

Many comments make completing this sound complicated and too many extra steps. Here is the quick and easy way to complete:

1. Make group using the 'Premade Groups' tool under custom. Log out.
2. Log into character completing the quest and request to join group. Log out.
3. Log into first character and accept join request. Reset all instances and set to Heroic. Log out.
4. Log into questing character. Enter firelands and kill all bosses except ragnaros. Exit instance and log out.
5. Log into original group leader. Wait until lead is passed back to them. Reset all instances.
6. Repeat 4 & 5 until you have the essences you need then kill ragnaros.

There is no need to disband and reform groups in between runs. You just need to reset instances in between runs. This is how I did it and it works perfectly and minimizes the time and log-in/log-outs needed.

Commento di xLunacyx

7-11 Essence per boss (minus rag) on 25H usually favoring 10, had a guildie be leader so I didn't have to do the alt dance, it can be the same guildie you just disband and reform when you're done, with them being the leader.
50 first run
58 2nd
57 3rd
55 4th (219/250
5 runs no matter what

Once you have all 250, you can go slap Ragnaros and collect the Heart of Flame, a big clickable fiery mess right at Rag's spawn spot.

Commento di ebonarcana

I race changed from alliance to horde. I was able to pick up the Heart of Flame quest when I already have Dragonwrath, Tarecgosa's Rest stave in my bank.

Commento di Lilyoptra

To add to : By Drist (6,145 – 1·13·17) on 2021/01/12 (Patch 9.0.2) whose strat I definitely recommend as you stay in the same group which is much simplier.

The hardest part for me was the "getting both parties in the same group" at the very beginning. I could never see the listed group to join (maybe because my alt was on a different server?) My workaround was to have a friend get both toons in the group together, pass lead to the alt and leave (which they can do from anywhere). From there it is was pretty easy, just followed Drist's steps

Commento di adinuras

For those doing completing this in Dragonflight...if you cannot see Hallegosa in Orgrimmar...log out and log back in and she should appear. Took me way too long to figure out why i couldn't find her.

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Cuore di Fiamma

Potenzia il Bastone Runico di Nordrassil con 250 Essenze d'Anima di Fuoco e recupera il Cuore di Fiamma.

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<name>, tu sei <il primo/la prima> mortale ad assistere a un Concilio dei Draghi e tra i pochi esseri viventi di Azeroth a prendere parte alla scelta di un Aspetto.

L'ascensione mi ha conferito un incredibile potere e mi sono preso la libertà di rinsaldare il legame tra Tarecgosa e te, anche se lei avrà bisogno di una dimora più... stabile.

Vorrei che ti avventurassi un'ultima volta nel Piano del Fuoco e mi portassi il Cuore di Ragnaros.

La prossima volta che ci incontreremo, potrò ringraziarti adeguatamente per tutto ciò che hai fatto.

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