Riassunto

Serie

1.	Guerra di spionaggio
2.	Il Macellaio di Taurajo

[Storyline]
Savane Meridionali Libera l'Altavia Alimentare la paura La redenzione dei guerrieri Occhio per occhio Resistenza al Colle del Cacciatore Pezzi di raptor Terrorizzali Bassavia Fermare l'ispettore Tenere a bada i cani Situazione disperata Parlare la loro lingua L'attacco delle piante Una strana fioritura Intervento biologico Vipere da laboratorio Semi di Sferzavite Trovare una soluzione La raccolta del caos Faglia dell'Incubo Una riga nella polvere Il nuovo capo Il fiero leone Spezzassedio Riprendere Taurajo Onore ai morti Ispezione a Forte Desolazione Cambio di Gar'dul Incubo aereo Problemi di Silitidi Reclama la Fossa di Guerra Guerra di spionaggio Il Macellaio di Taurajo Le parti sono parti I cuori sono cuori Il cervello conta La supplica di Mahka Desolazione senza fine Squarciadenti La terra disturbata Sangue delle Savane Echi di Agamaggan Come una volpe nel pollaio Fortezza nanica Sabotaggio!

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Commento di GitGudGuides

Il Macellaio di Taurajo http://youtu.be/W2iDQDzRYs8

Commento di bebita

Il Macellaio di Taurajo https://youtu.be/nQaFX6c1u04

Commenti

Commento di Teldarsterallnes

This quest depresses me because even though general hawthorne attacked Taurajo, he intensionally left a gap in the lines so the civilians could escape as was stated in the alliance quest line.

Commento di thottbotrules

Same thoughts here. He will be missed and when (hopefully in the near future) the Alliance presses on in taking Southern Barrens completely, he is to blame.

Commento di MightyDuck

pre-req: Ispezione a Forte Desolazione

Commento di Saufsoldat

Next time your home town is attacked at night and people around you are getting slaughtered, let me know if you were thinking that maybe the attackers left a gap in the lines and if you were expecting to get through there unharmed.

I'd say Hawthorne got what he deserved.

Commento di 453319

You say Taurajo. I raise you:

The Farming Community of Hillsbrad
Now a macabre mess of plague ridden bodies stitched together because the Horde is an honorable foe that respects life and people's right to live in peace in their own lands.
The Village of Southshore
A place that found it more sensible to fight ogres and syndicate than bother the Forsaken. Too bad they didn't resurrect an avatar of vengeance in their neighbor's graveyard as Tarren Mill did to them. Sucks for not being prepared for plague holocaust, yes?
The Village of Astranaar
Where a sick child resides. Don't forget that her cure is being harvested because Horde decided to chop down the ancient, Bathran and harvest his hair like a crop.
The Dabyrie Farmstead
Basically "They're alive! I'm dead! They should be dead too! Kill Kenata and her entire family, bring me their heads so I feel better!", yet another senseless slaughter just because the Forsaken are butt hurt for being dead and that everyone should be dead like them.
Eastern Ashenvale
Which is now an unrecognizable mess of ancients and trees that were cut down by the Horde. Nobody even remembers what that area looked like anymore because all the Sentinels and ancients there were killed by a demon-blood-slurping jerkwad with genocide on his record whom the Horde still worships.
Maestra's Post
Where an orc warlock and entire army is bombarding 3-6 Sentinels defending a bunker filled with wounded troops. Don't forget the murder of two ARGENT DAWN members. Don't forget the constant taunts about how night elf blood is easy to spill and that all night elves should flee to Darnassus and cower. Funny how orcs froth at the mouth about bravery and this guy is standing on a tower behind an army.
Thal'darah Grove
And all the children within. Cause if what Hawthorne did doesn't count, I'm pretty sure Garrosh came in to save face with the tauren, not cry over dead night elven children. I highly doubt that the guy who doesn't do anything about the Forest's Heart being corrupted and who is leading lumber operations in the entire north of Kalimdor (Including Felwood while the Emerald Circle is trying to heal it) as well as an imperialist war mentality to take over a continent gives two %^&*s about kaldorei innocents. The guy practically allies with Shatterspear in the north JUST to kill night elves while they're busy trying to recover from Auberdine's destruction. Forget kicking someone while down, that's literally beating them with a baseball bat while they're on life support.
Silverwind Refuge
Using water elementals driven insane by an undead mage that's standing atop Dreadmist Peak surrounded by Burning Blade... Then gloating about how the several night elf guards and civilian vendors tried to flee before turning the place into a goblin slum with enslaved furbolgs, as well as quests to collect more furbolg ears while the Refuge's former inhabitants left to rot under orcish boots. Do I have to say anything else?

Sorry, but the Horde had it a LONG time coming. At least Hawthorne had enough decency to go against what even the Alliance High Command would have preferred, bending over backwards to allow Horde civilians to flee, despite Taurajo being a staging ground for the Horde invasion into Ashenvale and beyond. These wounds were opened first by the Horde. Hawthorne even sends you in there to arrest those looters FORCEFULLY, saying that they are soldiers and not common bandits. I wonder what would be said if the Alliance had been doing what the Horde has for the last 5 years? The crying and the whining would be legendary.

RIP General Hawthorne, and all the innocents, even the Horde ones that the Alliance tried to help.

Commento di 675284

To complete the quest head to the spot marked on your map, an orc named Karthog(48,58) will be standing by a tree talk to him about ambushing the General. The tree is by the northen tip of the battle scar

Commento di 315117

Hillsbrad: A renegade who was executed. Gee, the alliance have never had a renegade they've had to execute, have they? Because everything is all nice and pleasant when the Alliance run things. Garithos? Admiral Proodmoore? No? It's genocide when we do it, when you do it it's cleansing, right?

Southshore: Valuable port. This is war. We may have been a little overzealous, but this is war - not to mention Lordaeron's land - a kingdom that is still intact, despite what the nay-sayers in Stormwind have to say about it.

Astranaar: Because the night elves slaughtering orcs without negotiation for the termacity to harvest a natural resource is completely faultless and correct, simply because they like their forest and they don't want outsiders messing with it. Why don't they move up to Felwood? Oh, they can't, because it was corrupted utterly. By demons. Who they invited to Azeroth. "Oh, but that was the Highbourne, not us!" Night elf mages are in-game right now. You made your bed, we need lumber, now put up with it. Attack us, and you'll get attacked back.

Farmstead: She's a walking corpse and her family stole her stuff. I'd be a bit bitter too.

Eastern Ashenvale: Look at how Turaylon and Alleria in particular thought on orcs before you start pointing fingers about bloodthirsty advocates of genocide.

Maestra's Post: A tactical outpost. This is war.

Silverwind Refuge: A sound plan to take it, and the mess is cleaned up afterwards. The elementals are dealt with and the outpost belongs to the Horde. We use it against you. You don't have to like it. And don't act like you've never killed a furbolg. They aren't exactly cute and cuddly.

TL:DR version Blizzard wants us to hate each other, and they do a damn fine job.
And incidentally, back on topic here, Hawthorne or whatever dies and the people who take over from him immediately go IT'S WHAT HE WOULD HAVE WANTED NO MERCY and use his death to incite even more hatred and atrocities. The noble alliance indeed.

Commento di zim57398

Maybe the Orcs & Forsaken have it coming for all those things, but the Tauren?

Commento di thottbotrules

lmao! if it wasn't for Hawthorne, Southern Barrens would already be alliance controlled! be lucky you could quest in the same zone as that dude.

Commento di 453319

Hillsbrad: What exactly are you smoking? Does Varimathras ever imply that the Battle was a secret from Sylvanas? Hell Bragor Bloodfist himself (an orc representative) applauds you for what you've accomplished. Where's Garithos' legacy in the Alliance? Yeah, zero. I love that whenever the Horde does something bad, they either know nothing or have no control.

And don't talk to me about the genocides in game. Jaina allowed her father to be killed to honor the treaty. If you blame his vigilante mindset on the Alliance, then I'll happily blame the Blackrock on the Horde in addition to your Scourge 2.0 allies. Sound fair? K.

Southshore: "Little overzealous" my rear end. The place is a toxic wasteland where not even a single crop will grow unless the Argent Crusade and Cenarion spend another five years clearing that place up. Even the Scourge haven't pulled off something of this magnitude. Bears have spiders growing out of their ass for crying out loud. And you're damn right it's war. War the Horde started long before Varian snapped. The Forsaken have been waging war since day 1.

Astranaar: Oh yes, the typical "Night elves brought the Legion" argument. Night elves have spent 10,000 years making up for that mistake. You hate the Sundering so much? Kick out blood elves.They JUST accepted mages after all this time and the ones now are the Shen'dralar, and have expressed their regret and desire to redeem themselves. You want to play hard ball though? Then man up for the destruction of draenor, near extinction of the draenei and being the tool of the Legion for years and bringing nothing but misery to Azeroth; as opposed to fighting the tyranny of that harlot Azshara and her lackeys and then being the guardian of the natural world for thousands of years to atone for the crime your leaders did. Which one is better? (Hint: Pick the obvious one)

Orcs were freed what, 15 years ago? Forget night elves who caused a catastrophe, the orcs freaking blew up a planet and have brought nothing but war to another. Already they go back to using demons in the defense of Splintertree. The demon may have fooled them, but it was never Durak's idea to corrupt the heart of the forest or to use infernal power to avoid defeat in a fair fight, color me shocked, didn't see that coming. The orcs don't need corruption, their intentions are TWISTED enough. And I'd love to see what orcs would do if night elves came to Oshu'gun and started chipping away at it to build a Temple.

Funny that you mention Felwood. The only Horde presence there is goblins whereas the Alliance one is druids. Even the furbolg have different quest dialogues because they're really sick of the Horde. Sorry, but your logic of "you attacked us first" doesn't fly, at all. Tell the Frostwolves to stop squatting on dwarven and human land then, at least when the dwarves came, it was an unarmed expedition force to dig up the relics related to THEIR past, on THEIR planet.

Farmstead: Don't give me the whole "stealing" crap. She lets the Horde member who does the killing actually keep what they have, and even said she doesn't care for those belongings. Be emo and hating the world all you want. But once your "bitterness" means slaughtering a family just for the sake of murder you can go walk off a cliff. I never thought claiming the belongings of those who are dead just for your survival warranted the collection of your family's heads. Especially if their reason for slaughtering your relatives is cause they're having undead PMS.

Eastern Ashenvale: Because orcs coming through a portal high on demon blood viagra, shouting and slaughtering everyone wildly while still holding the near extinction of the draenei under their belt (as well as paving a road of their bones, naming it the Path of "Glory") is equal to night elves shooting orcs that are killing wisps and cutting down their homes. Last I checked, it's more than just night elves fighting you, it's Ancients, spirits of the land, and the very animals.

It's not night elves that don't want you.
It's the land itself.

Did you even play Warcraft 3? You probably did, but just like every die-hard Horde supporter you block out and try to justifty that you don't like. Why was Grom even sent to Ashenvale? Let me give you a hint.

Grom: I can wait no longer... the humans MUST be slaughtered.
Thrall: Have you lost what's left of your mind Grom? I gave you a direct order to leave the humans alone! What the Hell is wrong with you?
Grom: Don't lecture me pup! The wretches deserved death!

Deserving death for simply existing. I'm sensing a pattern.

I'm sure night elves coming in to ask nicely for Grom to stop would have yielded far different results, surely. You're beating a dead horse by crying victim while trying to play tough with the "You shot us first!" line.

Meastra's Post: Nobody denies its war. Just try telling that to the Argent Crusade regarding the deaths of Feero Ironhand and Delgren the Purifier. The Horde is simply protected by plot armor. Maestra isn't even a military base. It was a gathering area for druids, priests and paladins to stage attacks against the demons in Ashenvale.

Silverwind Refuge: Sound plan to take it, eh? Tauren aren't cute and cuddly either, but that's genocide, amirite? Why am I not surprised this is coming from the same folks that waited until the Alliance attacked the Scourge, then hit them from behind? Here's what the Alliance did in a similar situation back in the Burning Crusade. Pity they didn't know what their "allies" against the Legion would do to them in Northrend.
Il nemico del mio nemico...

The Alliance didn't enjoy it, but they did what was necessary. THAT is Honor. Actions speak louder than words, and that's all the Horde does, foam at the mouth about honor while doing the complete opposite, or pointing finger at demons.

And you honestly keep attaching Hawthorne's name to "hatred" and "atrocities"? The Horde is honestly accusing the Alliance of war crimes? After 5 years of brutally torturing and murdering any and all Alliance captives, farming humans for skulls, poisoning the land and pillaging what is not theirs and allying with the Burning Legion? Really?

The Horde loves to cry victim and ask for "vengeance" when in fact they're the cause of the misery.

Alliance: Finish Me!
Horde: Avenge Me!

And on that note. Sorry to dissapoint, but I don't hate you. But I severely disagree with you, even if my tone may have sounded harsh. I left the Horde exactly for this reason. I'd be perfectly fine with the Horde if their players weren't in denial about what their faction does. It's a sad day that the faction I started this game with is the embodiment of all I despise.

@Zim 57398:

I still love Cairne, Hamuul and the likes of them. But the tauren there had no qualms with helping the Horde's invasion into Ashenvale even before this Cataclysm. In the immortal words of Jorn Skyseer who sends you to participate in the Great Ashenvale Hunt.

The forests of Ashenvale represent a vast untamed wild that the Horde seeks to impose its own will upon, both politically and spiritually.

It seems the Earth Mother can go suck it if it's not tauren land being defiled.

Commento di 716223

Well, interesting discussion and all. A lot of factoids and bits of lore I didn't know.

Basically the Horde is bad.

Which is true. I figured when I created my first character as Forsaken, that choosing a zombie like character who can eat dead bodies as his racial, would likely fall somewhere south of the neutral area.

That being said, there are 'good'(Those who have their sense of honor and try to follow it) forces within the Horde. Leaving Thunder Bluff Baine Bloodhoof told my Tauren Pallie

Much has changed outside of Mulgore, <name>. The world is torn, and our Horde allies have turned down dark paths. We must guide them. Even in the darkest hour, we will bravely hold our heads high, and honor the Earth Mother in all we do.

You must go, <name>, and be this example. Go to Orgrimmar. Tell Warchief Hellscream how the Grimtotem were driven out. Let him know our pride and discipline, our strength and sorrow.

Tal at the Skytower will send you on your way. Go in peace, and never forget your people.

From there, and doing the starter quests in Silverpine, it started to give me a sympathetic view on the Forsaken's objectives(ie They were here first, they didn't ask to be turned into zombie slaves of the lich king, and they'll do whatever it takes to keep what they see as 'their' land and freedom).

Granted having Drek(from AV) chew me out for helping the Forsaken did help me decide on going to non-Forsaken area for my next quest:

So you have come seeking our aid?

I... *cough* I have been alive for a very long time. In that time I have seen and done terrible things.

Things that still keep me awake at nights.

But these terrible things that I have done and the people that I have harmed - I know them... I face them... and I feel remorse for them.

But the Forsaken. *cough* What do they feel?

They ravage the land and destroy everything that they touch. How many lives have been lost to their vile poisons?

How many innocents have fallen before the Forsaken war machine?

Countless... countless lives... *cough*

Yes... I have done terrible things, but nothing could ever be as terrible as lending aid to the Forsaken.

You go back to that spineless orc who would not come see me and you tell him that the Frostwolf clan will not aid the Forsaken. Not now, not ever!

BEGONE!

And after doing a quest where you were given the option of killing or freeing humans that were buried up to their necks(Fa' la cosa giusta) it's not hard to see where Drek's coming from.

Overall the Horde is going to be evil, but Blizzard has put enough NPCs, and events into the game that the players can sympathize with them, and feel betrayed when the players see (from their point of view) Alliance marching in, burning and razing a Hunting outpost, driving the survivors out into a relatively hostile area chuck full of racial enemies. Plus the Horde sees the village full of looters(who kleptomania is unknown to the Horde and so they assume they are normal Alliance) who might desecrate the victims bodies.

TL:DR
The Horde is made up of your stereotypical evil races.
If you want to do quests where you can make heads 'asplode' roll Horde.
Still, there are good, or at least honorable members of the Horde, so Blizz can direct players sympathies.

Also, please leave our cow people alone :(

Commento di 716223

Again, interesting points, my main comments of mine are above.

Main thing in this post I would debate is

Taurajo being a staging ground for the Horde invasion into Ashenvale and beyond.

Excuse me, but why don't you go take a look at Coruth's comments? I have just as much a right to defend by beliefs as he has a right to attack them. Are you really so low you have to resort to petty insults? I have no life? Look who's taking the time to attempt to trash me individually. You are the one without a life. I have a job, a family, friends, and pets. I live a good life.

When someone goes around trashing the Forsaken and the Horde, I have the right to defend where I stand on the matter. I never called everyone who disagrees with me sick or evil, only Coruth, because his words are really disturbing to me. If you have a quarrel with someone, don't lie to make them look bad. And my main is a Forsaken. I am proud to support the Horde. You want to disagree with me? Then do so in a civilized manner, instead of acting like the little child you sound like.

Commento di Marathan

Haha. RPing a Horde-loyal Forsaken is just kind of wrong, sorry. The Horde is for orcs, trolls, Tauren and goblins. The rest are more like their allies.

And I just felt like pushing the discussion a little lower to see if it would calm people down. Guess it doesn't work when they are well prepared. Congratulations, we'll keep this peaceful for now.

Commento di 4dehorde

Who the hell are you to tell me how I play WoW is wrong? What gives you the right to talk down to me, or anyone? I'll tell you, nothing. Blizzard has said while at first the Forsaken viewed their Alliance with the Horde as one of convenience, more of them see themselves as genuine members of the Horde now. The Horde is united. Go ahead, downrate my comments all you like. It proves that you can't stand those who have different views than your own.

Commento di 4dehorde

That is a theory only. Varian's negative views of Thrall were made clear before, especially in the Battle for the Undercity. I really don't think it would be a stretch for the king to resort to such tactics.

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Commento di Nimoku

I've been wondering, is this quest maybe a reference to the "Butcher of Blaviken" considering both Geralt (from the witcher series) and Hawthrone only slew the ones that according to them, who deserved it, leaving innocent civilians alone and a way to escape?

Commento di Shurhaian

I've played Horde and I've played Alliance. Prior to Cataclysm, my impression of the Horde was that it had its share of bloodthirsty zealots, yes, but it was certainly not unique in this.

First point: Not all of the Horde orcs chose to drink demon blood. Even disregarding the possibility of coercion, some of them - such as Thrall himself - are the descendants of orcs who drank demon blood, and did not get to make that choice themselves.

Moving from there: Once the demon blood was rendered inert by killing its progenitor, the orcs reacted to their past deeds in different ways. On the one hand, you have people like Saurfang the Elder, who can't even bear to eat pork because the sounds of swine being sacrificed remind him too much of children screaming, and countless others who were unable to live with their past actions and committed suicide. And others whom Saurfang was able to reach and save, or who may have recovered on their own.

And you probably have others who, having been monsters, could really only live on by remaining, on some level, the same sort of monster. It's twisted, yes, but the mind works in odd ways sometimes.

And then there's Garrosh Hellscream, who went from being a mopey and ineffectual good-for-nothing apathetic whiner when first encountered in Nagrand to pushing for full war against the Alliance on the Lich King's very doorstep without demon blood as an excuse. That degree of bloodlust is, well... almost human, honestly.

As for the rest of the Horde, the Forsaken are the worst by far. Duplicitous, vengeful, genuinely evil - I admit I generally avoid doing Forsaken quests because they're so utterly vile, but the main non-evil Forsaken I can recall were those in the Argent Crusade or similar organizations. The blood elves start out misguided, but by the time of the Shattered Sun Offensive they're seeing how thoroughly they've been played - and considering what the Alliance did to them and especially to Kael'thas (back before his deal with Kil'jaeden) in the later stages of the Third War, they have no reason to love the Alliance at all, so it's hardly a betrayal on their part. The Darkspear trolls have, by and large, been gentled by their association with Thrall and the rest of the Horde - they still have their dark mysticism and may well harbor darker secrets still, but Vol'jin is sane enough to recognize a greater threat and reach out to everyone about it. (And scant thanks he gets for it, too. "Can't these trolls fix their own problems?" or whatever it is the guard on the Stormwind docks says.) The tauren? Main thing they're guilty of is being too nice, holding out hope in curing the Forsaken when the Forsaken aren't even willing to give it an honest go. Goblins? Let's consider that scenario: Thrall was en route to try and deal with the aftermath of the Cataclysm. Alliance forces attacked his ship. The remnants of the Bilgewater cartel came into view and the Alliance captain ordered them blasted out of the water for no more reason than their being there at the time.

Rewind a touch from the Kezan incident, and go to Northrend: Horde and Alliance forces unite, however tenuously, at the Wrathgate. Both are betrayed by Putress and, through him, Varimathras. Alexstrasza herself urges peace. Wrynn's response? He, the king of Stormwind, wants to seize Lordaeron. Never mind that Lordaeron is and has been the home of the Forsaken, he wants to take it over wholesale while they're still reeling from Varimathras's betrayal.

And Wrynn in general is prone to demonizing every damn thing the Horde does, especially in extending every unpleasant thing that happened to him during his time as a captive gladiator to the Horde as a whole. As if the Alliance doesn't have its unsavory elements. As if the Defias Brotherhood didn't figure largely in his initial capture - an organization which, remember, largely rose because the nobles of Stormwind wouldn't pay their masons a lousy copper for rebuilding the city. Orcs under Doomhammer may have razed the place at the end of the First War, but Thrall (himself kept captive from infancy for a human's amusement as a gladiator - quit your whining, Varian) had nothing to do with Stormwind's nobles stiffing their workmen.

Before Garrosh, yes, the Horde still had its warts, but aside form the Forsaken, it actually had more to respect in it than did the Alliance. Garrosh has of course shifted that balance, but the Alliance can still do some bloody abominable things (like, say, pursuing genocide on the Revantusk trolls - probably the most peaceful tribe of forest trolls that hasn't yet been eradicated - for no other reason than "we've hunted trolls around here for years", and only moving on to the Vilebranch tribe, trying to corrupt the entire Hinterlands, after the Revantusk have been heavily blooded). And the Alliance is even faster than the Horde to point to every evil thing anyone in any of the Horde races have ever done (orcs in the Twilight's Hammer) while ignoring their own races' bad apples (humans and gnomes in the Twilight's Hammer).

Short version: No, the Horde isn't perfect. Especially not with Garrosh in charge. But to tar them all with that brush while whitewashing the sins of the Alliance races is just daft.

Commento di 898114

Liriael and Shurhaian, I agree with you completely. For every supposed evil the Horde does, I can name an Alliance action that wasn't so nice either. Warcraft is not as black and white as some think.

Commento di 933649

Karthog's specific location is 48.18, 58.18.

Commento di Mushalor

If you're like me and spent too much time backtracking through comments and quest chains just for the sake of a piece of leather transmog gear, this might be useful.

The full list of pre-requisites in order to get to this quest ("The Butcher of Taurajo") are as follows:

Start with Bad to Worse from Makaba Flathoof (must be at least level 30). He is located in Southern Barrens at 42, 33--just west of the Overgrowth on your map.
Then turn around and pick up A Family Divided from Tawane (who is in a hut at the same camp). Turn this in to Kirge Sternhorn at Vendetta Point, in order to pick up the follow-up, A Line in the Dirt.
Make sure to also pick up from Tatternack Steelforge (in the same camp) Meet the New Boss
After this, Siegebreaker becomes available.
Follow this chain through from Taking Back Taurajo, to its follow-up, Desolation Hold Inspection.
"Desolation Hold Inspection" takes you to Desolation Hold, of course, where upon completing Changing of the Gar'dul you can pick up the final pre-req, Intelligence Warfare, from Warlord Bloodhilt. Complete this, and you get this quest, the Butcher of Taurajo. And, you know, your reward.

Edited for forgetting a quest.

Commento di 804799

how is any of this helpful for the quest. its just a bunch of people giving their opinion on the objective, thanks guys

Commento di 982877

Hillsbrad: What exactly are you smoking? Does Varimathras ever imply that the Battle was a secret from Sylvanas? Hell Bragor Bloodfist himself (an orc representative) applauds you for what you've accomplished. Where's Garithos' legacy in the Alliance? Yeah, zero. I love that whenever the Horde does something bad, they either know nothing or have no control.

And don't talk to me about the genocides in game. Jaina allowed her father to be killed to honor the treaty. If you blame his vigilante mindset on the Alliance, then I'll happily blame the Blackrock on the Horde in addition to your Scourge 2.0 allies. Sound fair? K.

Southshore: "Little overzealous" my rear end. The place is a toxic wasteland where not even a single crop will grow unless the Argent Crusade and Cenarion spend another five years clearing that place up. Even the Scourge haven't pulled off something of this magnitude. Bears have spiders growing out of their ass for crying out loud. And you're damn right it's war. War the Horde started long before Varian snapped. The Forsaken have been waging war since day 1.

Astranaar: Oh yes, the typical "Night elves brought the Legion" argument. Night elves have spent 10,000 years making up for that mistake. You hate the Sundering so much? Kick out blood elves.They JUST accepted mages after all this time and the ones now are the Shen'dralar, and have expressed their regret and desire to redeem themselves. You want to play hard ball though? Then man up for the destruction of draenor, near extinction of the draenei and being the tool of the Legion for years and bringing nothing but misery to Azeroth; as opposed to fighting the tyranny of that harlot Azshara and her lackeys and then being the guardian of the natural world for thousands of years to atone for the crime your leaders did. Which one is better? (Hint: Pick the obvious one)

Orcs were freed what, 15 years ago? Forget night elves who caused a catastrophe, the orcs freaking blew up a planet and have brought nothing but war to another. Already they go back to using demons in the defense of Splintertree. The demon may have fooled them, but it was never Durak's idea to corrupt the heart of the forest or to use infernal power to avoid defeat in a fair fight, color me shocked, didn't see that coming. The orcs don't need corruption, their intentions are TWISTED enough. And I'd love to see what orcs would do if night elves came to Oshu'gun and started chipping away at it to build a Temple.

Funny that you mention Felwood. The only Horde presence there is goblins whereas the Alliance one is druids. Even the furbolg have different quest dialogues because they're really sick of the Horde. Sorry, but your logic of "you attacked us first" doesn't fly, at all. Tell the Frostwolves to stop squatting on dwarven and human land then, at least when the dwarves came, it was an unarmed expedition force to dig up the relics related to THEIR past, on THEIR planet.

Farmstead: Don't give me the whole "stealing" crap. She lets the Horde member who does the killing actually keep what they have, and even said she doesn't care for those belongings. Be emo and hating the world all you want. But once your "bitterness" means slaughtering a family just for the sake of murder you can go walk off a cliff. I never thought claiming the belongings of those who are dead just for your survival warranted the collection of your family's heads. Especially if their reason for slaughtering your relatives is cause they're having undead PMS.

Eastern Ashenvale: Because orcs coming through a portal high on demon blood viagra, shouting and slaughtering everyone wildly while still holding the near extinction of the draenei under their belt (as well as paving a road of their bones, naming it the Path of "Glory") is equal to night elves shooting orcs that are killing wisps and cutting down their homes. Last I checked, it's more than just night elves fighting you, it's Ancients, spirits of the land, and the very animals.

It's not night elves that don't want you.
It's the land itself.

Did you even play Warcraft 3? You probably did, but just like every die-hard Horde supporter you block out and try to justifty that you don't like. Why was Grom even sent to Ashenvale? Let me give you a hint.

Grom: I can wait no longer... the humans MUST be slaughtered.
Thrall: Have you lost what's left of your mind Grom? I gave you a direct order to leave the humans alone! What the Hell is wrong with you?
Grom: Don't lecture me pup! The wretches deserved death!

Deserving death for simply existing. I'm sensing a pattern.

I'm sure night elves coming in to ask nicely for Grom to stop would have yielded far different results, surely. You're beating a dead horse by crying victim while trying to play tough with the "You shot us first!" line.

Meastra's Post: Nobody denies its war. Just try telling that to the Argent Crusade regarding the deaths of Feero Ironhand and Delgren the Purifier. The Horde is simply protected by plot armor. Maestra isn't even a military base. It was a gathering area for druids, priests and paladins to stage attacks against the demons in Ashenvale.

Silverwind Refuge: Sound plan to take it, eh? Tauren aren't cute and cuddly either, but that's genocide, amirite? Why am I not surprised this is coming from the same folks that waited until the Alliance attacked the Scourge, then hit them from behind? Here's what the Alliance did in a similar situation back in the Burning Crusade. Pity they didn't know what their "allies" against the Legion would do to them in Northrend.
Enemy of my Enemy...

The Alliance didn't enjoy it, but they did what was necessary. THAT is Honor. Actions speak louder than words, and that's all the Horde does, foam at the mouth about honor while doing the complete opposite, or pointing finger at demons.

And you honestly keep attaching Hawthorne's name to "hatred" and "atrocities"? The Horde is honestly accusing the Alliance of war crimes? After 5 years of brutally torturing and murdering any and all Alliance captives, farming humans for skulls, poisoning the land and pillaging what is not theirs and allying with the Burning Legion? Really?

The Horde loves to cry victim and ask for "vengeance" when in fact they're the cause of the misery.

Alliance: Finish Me!
Horde: Avenge Me!

And on that note. Sorry to dissapoint, but I don't hate you. But I severely disagree with you, even if my tone may have sounded harsh. I left the Horde exactly for this reason. I'd be perfectly fine with the Horde if their players weren't in denial about what their faction does. It's a sad day that the faction I started this game with is the embodiment of all I despise.

@Zim 57398:

I still love Cairne, Hamuul and the likes of them. But the tauren there had no qualms with helping the Horde's invasion into Ashenvale even before this Cataclysm. In the immortal words of Jorn Skyseer who sends you to participate in the Great Ashenvale Hunt.

The forests of Ashenvale represent a vast untamed wild that the Horde seeks to impose its own will upon, both politically and spiritually.

It seems the Earth Mother can go suck it if it's not tauren land being defiled.

You seem to have adopted the warcraft world as your real world, poor thing, just jump of a bridge if you seriously spend your time writing a two page long hate post to some made up faction in an game, that is really really sad.

Commento di saeid

speek to "Karthog" stayed under tree , he'll help you to done quest .

Commento di crystallinegirl

Does anyone know what it is the General SAYS when he's killed?
"Agol regen ash veLd lo ealdor Ko lars." is what the Horde sees. I'd love to know what he actually says.

Commento di alt0ir

Blizz can you make this quest daily please ?

Commento di GitGudGuides

The Butcher of Taurajo http://youtu.be/W2iDQDzRYs8

Commento di bebita

The Butcher of Taurajo https://youtu.be/nQaFX6c1u04

Commento di WoWGnGP

i made i playthrough of this quest if anyone wish to see how to do it :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHoubrFFGUE&feature=youtu.be

Commento di Akushalah

If you're doing the chain to build an abomination, and you have the quest "Smarts is Smarts" in your log requiring a fresh brain, note that Hawthorne's bodyguards both drop the item, so you can complete both quests at the same time.

Collegamenti

Il Macellaio di Taurajo

Parla con Karthog, poi esci allo scoperto e uccidi il Generale Biancospino.

	Generale Biancospino ucciso

Descrizione

Questo agente doveva mettere in sicurezza le strade tra il Comando dell'Alleanza e la Roccaforte del Trionfo. Il Generale Biancospino si sta muovendo.

<Elsarossa accartoccia i documenti nel pugno.>

È LUI, <name>! Biancospino, che sia maledetto! È lui che ha ordinato l'attacco a Taurajo! Ora sappiamo quando e dove colpirlo. Presto, segui la strada settentrionale della Fossa di Guerra e unisciti al mio assassino, Karthog. SCHIACCIA Biancospino e trascina il suo cadavere lungo la strada!