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Commento di DarkElfIT

I see that Griftah sure has been getting around. Now he is summoned Secretive Whistle to fence your goods...the real question, does he still try to sell you items to protect you from all of the dangers of the world, like dying, critter attacks.

On second thought, he can't be all bad, there is hygiene and of course....oooh.....bobble

Commento di Loreza

Griftah can as of patch 6.1 now sell different rogue masks

Commento di 1454546

I made this macro to quickly count ingame how many Monete di Ferro you will recieve for fencing your items:
/run c=GetItemCount print(c(112995)*2+c(112996)*3+c(112997)*4+c(113000)*4+c(112998)*5+c(113001)*6+c(112999)*6+c(113004)*6+c(113002)*8+c(113003)*10+c(113005)*12+c(113006)*18+c(113008)*20+c(113007)*20)

Commento di Eluvia

are the masks that you buy singly transmoggable?

Commento di boxerd26

A good place for the Alliance to pickpocket is in Talador at the Tomb of Lights, coord 59, 65. The flight path for this area is Exarch's Refuge.
In 15 min I collected:
17 Magma-Infused War Beads
13 Glowing Ancestral Idol
21 Locket of Dreams
18 Choker of Nightmares
16 Chain of Hopes
38 Oozing Amulet
25 Sparkling Amulet
30 Opal Amulet
27 Slimy Ring
36 Glistening Ring
49 Diamond Ring
38 Emerald Ring
26 Sapphire Ring
16 Ruby Amulet
As you enter the tomb, go into the room on the left where you would turn-in your quest to Soulbinder Tuulani. Turn and face the door, stand on the last rug in this room (it's lighter than the first). In the middle of the rug there are two arrows. One points to the right, and the other to the left. Stand on the right, and as the NPC's run past you to fight, loot away. You don't have to SAP, just loot!

Hope this helps someone

Commento di Sarthorius

Farming around the Throne Of Kil'jaeden area at north-east of Tanaan Jungle I got, within the hour, more or less:

16 x Amuleto Ronzante worth 4 Monete di Ferro each
27 x Amuleto Scintillante worth 6 Monete di Ferro each
12 x Amuleto di Rubino worth 8 Monete di Ferro each
23 x Amuleto d'Opale worth 10 Monete di Ferro each
14 x Medaglione dei Sogni worth 6 Monete di Ferro each
10 x Catenina delle Speranze worth 12 Monete di Ferro each
14 x Girocollo degli Incubi worth 18 Monete di Ferro each
17 x Perle Infuse di Magma worth 20 Monete di Ferro each
10 x Idolo Ancestrale Luminoso worth 20 Monete di Ferro each
5 x Medaglione dei Ricordi Preziosi worth 40 Monete di Ferro each
1 x Anello con Sigillo Incerato worth 50 Monete di Ferro each
5 x Girocollo in Edizione Limitata worth 60 Monete di Ferro each
3 x Girocollo in Edizione Limitata worth 50 Monete di Ferro each
4 x Anello per Naso Amorevolmente Lucidato worth 40 Monete di Ferro each
4 x Anello con Prisma Lavico worth 60 Monete di Ferro each
2 x Urna Memoriale Scolpita worth 250 Monete di Ferro each (yeah the value is right)

Items that I didn't get from the mobs around the Throne in Tanaan:

Anello Viscido worth 2 Monete di Ferro each
Anello Luccicante worth 3 Monete di Ferro each
Anello con Smeraldo worth 4 Monete di Ferro each
Anello con Diamante worth 5 Monete di Ferro each
Anello con Zaffiro worth 6 Monete di Ferro each

Macro I use to count how many Monete di Ferro I have in my bags, tweaked the one from KiadaZuluhed as he's missing some new items from tanaan:

/run a,b=GetCurrencyInfo(980) c=GetItemCount k=(c(112995)*2+c(112996)*3+(c(112997)+c(113000))*4+c(112998)*5+(c(112999)+c(113001)+c(113004))*6+c(113002)*8+c(113003)*10+c(113005)*12+c(113006)*18+(c(113007)+c(113008))*20+(c(127398)+c(127406))*40+(c(127400)+c(127404))*50+(c(127402)+c(127407))*60+c(127409)*250) print("inv:",k,"to go:", 10000-(k+b))

And the macro I use, along with Scarica di Velocità:

#showtooltip Pick pocket
/cleartarget
/use Sap
/use Pick Pocket
/use Burst of Speed

Those 5 items I didn't get I may guess then you only will get them from other areas, and not from the Throne, but I too think you'll only get the last 7 from the list I got from the Throne, dunno.

Thanks to Kurasu for info on what the older items gave of Monete di Ferro.

EDIT: Updated the Urna Memoriale Scolpita value. Note that after you got the toy, you can change the 10000 number at the end of the counting macro to 3000 so you know how much you need to do the 2 weekly quests Punteggi elevati and Un punteggio ancora più alto, so you finish both in one cast of Griftah's summon at once. Do not farm the additional 5000 coins for Davvero?, you'll regret it.

Commento di Kase666

a glitch happened to me when i had the quest "An Even Bigga Score" left over when dailies reset, then when i went to complete it before completing "Da Big Score", all the quests glitched and now they won't reset, so i am permanently stuck on the quest "If You're Sure". which means no more Griftah dailies for me. been waiting on a ticket answer for 2 days now.

Commento di AskeHK

If you farm in Talador, Tomb of lights (58, 65 TomTom) in one of the tree rooms down there, a bunch of pickpocket-able orcs spawn at a insane rate from portals. You can easily get around 3k Dingy Iron Coins from just farming in 20-30 minutes, and complete the 2 quests to get 1750g. A painless 1,75k gold extra every week :). Remember to use the glyph "Glyph of Pick Pocket" to make this easier.

-Edit: Got 1,7k Dingy Iron Coins from farming in 15 minutes, so i have confirmed this myself, this is not just some crap from a gold farm video :).

Commento di Menjina

If you want to use one of the masks for transmog on a low level toon. This is how I did it on my Level 20 Horde Rogue.

A mage ported me to Warspear. Then I swam from Ashran to Tanaan Jungle. Swim at the upper north corner or you get ported back to Warspear. (You are too low level to enter Ashran.) In Tanaan I swam to the south corner of the map, open the Draenor Map @ 60.6 / 56.0. And from this spot to Shadowmoon Valley. And from there I just died / corpse run my way to Talador, Tomb of Lights (Entrance at 59, 65 ). At this spot you can solo farm the coins. There are NPCs fighting which you can pickpocket.

Commento di 917459

Can someone explain how to find him to pick up the initial quest? I went to Lower City and he did not offer a quest. I am a rogue and trying to figure out how to pick up this quest has been very frustrating as it seems most things online are just talking about the currency and items, not the questgiver and where to find him.

Commento di AACannon

You'll need 40000 dingy iron coins for all the items he sells

So....much....pick pocketing.

D:

Commento di Disclonius

If you're a collector and want to collect all the masks, the toy and the newly added Illusione: Veleno Griftah is selling, you will have to pick pocket so many mobs you might get depressive.
You need a total of 45 000 Monete di Ferro! However, you can reduce the amount of coins needed:

Maschera di Terokk has the exact same model than Maschera Ricamata di Cremisi e Oro and is a donjon quest reward from Sethekk's Hall so it's quiet possible you already have it.

Maschera del Tritaossa = Maschera Arancione Inclinata, it is a world drop mainly from the Hellfire Peninsula zone and the Hellfire Ramparts dungeon.

Maschera Nera del Presagio has many other masks that has the same model for the easiest one to get is Maschera di Pelle di Mammuceronte which is a reward from a 5 quests chain for horde players only. If you haven't completed it yet, it starts there: L'Assassino

And finally, you can save 1k coins by getting Maschera dell'Implacabile instead of Maschera Bianca Immacolata. It is a boss drop from the L'Implacabile in Stratholme, very easy to farm.

It makes a total of 9000 Monete di Ferro saved!
You'll still have to pick pocket a lot of mobs but it's better than nothing!

Commento di jjanchan

Here is an updated Monete di Ferro guide for patch 7.0! There are some changes to be made aware of.

The previously very helpful Glyph of Pick Pocket ("Increases the range of your Pick Pocket ability by 5 yards") has been removed.
Realm hopping is more challenging. In order to be transferred to a new server, someone in the group that you are joining needs to be in the same zone as you for you to be transferred over. If no one else is, you stay put.
With the new transmog system in place, all gear you purchase from Griftah will have the appearances saved permanently into your collection. As such, you can delete these items and you will still be able to transmog their looks indefinitely.

Let's dive right in!

Preamble

This mini-guide is tailored to those who may not main a Ladro. Perhaps you, like myself, may have levelled one for the Follia estrema achievement, and/or Barile di Bandane. As such, I've included the simplest methods, that require the least work (aside from levelling the character). As well, you don't need to know any combat mechanics or rotations to use these methods - there are ways listed below that shouldn't require you to fight anything!

Do note that the Toy, Barile di Bandane is only usable by Ladros, but will still count on ALL characters towards achievements like Ricorda di condividere (the new achievement that rewards the mount Estrattore di Legna Meccanizzato).

A primer on Borseggio

This ability allows you to obtain extra loot from many Humanoid mobs, available only to Ladros. This is in addition to any loot you would obtain if you subsequently killed the mob.

Borseggio requires that you are close to the mob in question (melee range).
Borseggio can only be used when stealthed.
Certain items, like Dadi Troll Consumati and Dadi Nanici Decaedrici can only be obtained via pickpocketing.
Pickpocketing mobs that are Neutral will not aggro them, unless you attack them otherwise in some way.
Once a mob is pickpocketed (by any Ladro), it's pockets are "depleted" for a period of time (typically about 5 minutes) before you can get loot from it again.

Alternatively if the mob dies and a new one respawns, its pockets can be picked.

Scatto is useful while pickpocketing, and Ladro talents like Predatore della Notte (Asssassination, Subtlety) and Acchiappa e Scappa (Outlaw) are as well.

What are Monete di Ferro?

This currency is exclusive to Ladros, and is obtained by pickpocketing in Draenor. You don't get these coins directly - there are items you pickpocket that you can "fence" to earn the coins.

How do I get Monete di Ferro?

The first time you pickpocket in Draenor, you will receive a Fischietto Segreto. Using this item will summon Griftah, a shady vendor who will both pay Monete di Ferro for the goods you have pilfered, and also sells items that cost varying amounts of Monete di Ferro.

Pickpocketing humanoids in Draenor will yield the aforementioned items that can be "fenced", or traded into Griftah for coins.
After you have collected a stockpile of these trinkets, simply use Fischietto Segreto to summon Griftah, then select "<Fence your loot>" when you speak to him. He will then take all of the loot you have pickpocketed from your bags, and give you a lump sum of the total coins they are worth (based on the chart below).

Below is a summary of these items. Beside each is listed the number of Monete di Ferro you'll get for the item, and where they can be obtained.

Item	Value (Monete di Ferro)	Pickpocketed from
Anello Viscido	2	Level 90-100 Mobs in ALL Draenor zones except Giungla di Tanaan Level 91-102 Elite Mobs in Draenor 5-man dungeons on any difficulty Level 100-102 Elite Mobs in BRF and Altomaglio raids
Anello Luccicante	3
Anello con Smeraldo	4
Anello con Diamante	5
Anello con Zaffiro	6
Amuleto Ronzante	4	Level 90-100 Mobs in ALL Draenor zones including Giungla di Tanaan Level 91-102 Elite Mobs in Draenor 5-man dungeons on any difficulty Level 100-102 Elite Mobs in BRF and Altomaglio raids
Amuleto Scintillante	6
Amuleto di Rubino	8
Amuleto d'Opale	10
Medaglione dei Sogni	6
Catenina delle Speranze	12
Girocollo degli Incubi	18
Idolo Ancestrale Luminoso	20
Perle Infuse di Magma	20
Medaglione dei Ricordi Preziosi	40	ONLY Level 100 Non-Elite/Elite Mobs in Giungla di Tanaan
Anello per Naso Amorevolmente Lucidato	40
Anello con Sigillo Incerato	50
Girocollo in Edizione Limitata	50
Girocollo in Edizione Limitata	60
Anello con Prisma Lavico	60
Urna Memoriale Scolpita	250

Below is a distribution of the relative rarity of various qualities of items, based on location:

Rarity	Non-Tanaan Zones	Giungla di Tanaan	Dungeons	Raids
Common	~10-11%	0%	~10-11%	~10-11%
Uncommon	~8-9%	~11-12%%	~8-9%	~8-9%
Rare	~5-6%	~7-9%%	~5-6%	~5-6%
Tier 1 Epics	~3%	~7-8%%	~3%	~3%
Tier 2 Epics*	0%	~0.3-3%**	0%	0%

Notes:
* "Tier 2" Epics ONLY drop in Giungla di Tanaan
** Most of these Epics are 2-3% of Pickpockets, except for Urna Memoriale Scolpita (the rare 250 coin treasure), which is about a 0.3% loot rate

Further Information

Giungla di Tanaan mobs only yield Green (Uncommon) or higher quality items
The above percentages chances are per item. For example, in Non-Tanaan zones, Medaglione dei Sogni, Catenina delle Speranze, and Girocollo degli Incubi each have a 5-6% chance to be Pickpocketed (total 15-18% chance of getting a Rare item), whereas Idolo Ancestrale Luminoso and Perle Infuse di Magma each have a ~3% chance to be pickpocketd (total 6% of getting an Epic item).
As a currency, Monete di Ferro are not in your bags, but rather can be found on your Currency tab under Character Info (C)
The hard cap on Monete di Ferro is 20,000, so don't stockpile too much!
Fischietto Segreto has a 15 minute cooldown, and Griftah will stick around for about 1 minute before disappearing.
Griftah will not accept any loot (e.g. greys) you might try and vendor.
Each loot item stacks to 20 in your bags. You should plan to have some bag space available based on where you are pickpocketing:

There are 14 different items that you will stockpile when pickpocketing in zones outside of Giungla di Tanaan.
There are 16 different items that you will collect when pickpocketing within Giungla di Tanaan.

Areas to Pick Pocket

After doing some testing, I would most recommend the Tomb of Lights in Talador as a spot to farm. This is an ideal spot for a number of reasons:

Minimal movement is required
Mobs respawn automatically (NPCs do the killing, so you never have to leave stealth)
There is a steady stream of NPCs that spawn
The mobs at level 94, so you never get forcibly removed from stealth
On a PvP server, the only other players you encounter are low level characters questing (typically level 94-97)

This is barring other Ladros, of course!

Each mob yields a small amount of money, which can add up

On average during testing, this amounted to 40-50s per mob

Tomb of Lights

To get to the Tomb of Lights, you need to fly to to the entrance (it is marked with an icon on the map, even if you do not have coordinates).

On going down the long sets of stairs that take a right turn you come into a room with 3 doorways; you will want to enter the room on the left. This is where you will work your magic!

The coordinates to doorway into this room are on the map of the tomb.
You will know you are in the right room based on the two portals that each look like a Stregone Varco Demoniaco.
The portals will constantly be spawning Sciacallo dell'Ombras and Infiltratore dell'Ombras that run towards the NPCs at the end of the room (Difensore Auchenais and Sacerdote delle Anime Auchenais).
The NPCs kill these mobs fairly quickly, so you can pickpocket the mobs as they spawn and wait for new ones to appear - it is a never-ending, steady source!
You don't want to sap these mobs, as that will delay them getting killed and new ones respawning. Rather, you can cover both portals by positioning yourself where the two streams of mobs converge, fairly close to the NPCs. Simply sidestep left and right and pickpocket the mobs as they run past.

Use the Target + Pickpocket Macro listed below to make this even easier!

Sometimes 2 mobs spawn from the same portal simultaneously (or close to). Simply pickpocket one and watch where the other runs so you can chase it down.
This spot can be used to farm coins for an unlimited time, although there may be competition from other Ladros!
In my experience, with no competition I was able to farm 1700-1900 Monete di Ferro every 15 minutes (at which point the cooldown for Fischietto Segreto would be up and I could fence my goods).

In that time I would also net 80-100g in coin from the pockets of these mobs.

Tanaan Jungle

Giungla di Tanaan can be a very lucrative spot to pickpocket for Monete di Ferro. Keep in mind that the most lucrative items that can be fenced, the "Tanaan-only" epic items listed above, cannot be obtained elsewhere (most notably the rare but very valuable Urna Memoriale Scolpita, worth 250 coins!).

The drawbacks to Tanaan are:

You have to always be looking for new mobs to pickpocket (new Humanoids).

Sometimes you travel a significant distance to find new targets.

Given that all mobs are level 100 and some are Elites, you will sometimes be forced from stealth and will enter combat, requiring you to kill the attackers.

This also makes you vulnerable to ganking (on PvP servers) as there are usually many members of the opposite faction around.

Tanaan mobs typically do not have any money in their pockets.

Despite these drawbacks, you can potentially net much more coins per hour in Giungla di Tanaan, with an increased risk of combat (which you may want to avoid if you are unaccustomed to or not inclined to engage in combat with your rogue, or your gear isn't that great). Rates of 2,000-3,000 coins every 15 minutes have been reported.

What can I get with Monete di Ferro?

Below is a description of how you can use your ill-gotten gains!

Quests

There are a few weekly quests available that can net you some gold for a little bit of time invested! These are offered by and completed via Griftah when he is summoned. The first two of these quests will net you a total of per week (for 3000 Monete di Ferro).
Note that these quests are entirely optional.

Punteggi elevati
Monete di Ferro required: 1000
Reward:
This quest will net you about per coin.
Un punteggio ancora più alto
Monete di Ferro required: 2000
Reward:
This quest is only available after you complete Punteggi elevati within a given week. It will net you about per coin.
Davvero?
Monete di Ferro required: 5000
Reward: (Yes, you read that right)
This quest is only available after you complete Un punteggio ancora più alto within a given week, and can be completed unlimited times. It will net you a measly per coin. In essence, DO NOT COMPLETE THIS QUEST!

Merchandise

All of the following items are available for sale from Griftah for Monete di Ferro.

Item	Cost (Monete di Ferro)	Description
Maschera Nera del Presagio	1,000	Black bandana that covers the lower face. Can be used for transmog.
Maschera Viola Sfarzosa	1,000	Purple bandana that covers the lower face. Can be used for transmog.
Maschera Bianca Immacolata	1,000	White bandana that covers the lower face. Can be used for transmog.
Maschera Verde Muschiosa	1,000	Bright green bandana that covers the lower face. Can be used for transmog.
Maschera Arancione Inclinata	1,000	Orange bandana that covers the lower face. Can be used for transmog.
Maschera da Ladro Sinistra	5,000	Red bandana that covers the lower face. Can be used for transmog.
Maschera Ricamata di Cremisi e Oro	5,000	Red bandana with gold filigree that covers the lower face. Can be used for transmog.
Illusione: Veleno	5,000	Weapon Illusion. This item adds the weapon illusion for poisons to your appearance collection. Similar to enchant illusions, it can be applied to your weapon to add a visual effect.
Berretto del Creatore dell'Ombra Cremisi	5,000	Bright red hood with a mask that covers the lower face. Can be used for transmog.
Berretto del Creatore dell'Ombra Decorato	10,000	Dark red hood with a mask that covers the lower face, with gold trim surrounding the hood. Can be used for transmog.
Barile di Bandane	10,000	Toy. Only a Ladro can use this Toy to set this barrel out, but anyone in their party can click it to grant a 30 minute buff, granting a random appearance of one of the 9 masks sold by Griftah.

Quick Numbers:

Buying all of the cosmetic masks/hoods will cost a total of 30,000 Monete di Ferro
Buying all of the items Griftah sells will cost a total of 45,000 Monete di Ferro

Useful Macros

Some of the other macros listed on this page are too long, or just don't work. I've tweaked some previously listed macros and optimized them. The following macros have been tested in-game and work as of patch 7.0

Non-Tanaan Item Count

This macro lists how many Monete di Ferro you have, as well as what the items in your inventory are cumulatively worth. It includes items pickpocketed outside of Tanaan Jungle. Adding together the two totals will give you the full amount of coins you currently possess.

/run a,b=GetCurrencyInfo(980) c=GetItemCount k=(c(112995)*2+c(112996)*3+(c(112997)+c(113000))*4+c(112998)*5+(c(112999)+c(113001)+c(113004))*6+c(113002)*8+c(113003)*10+c(113005)*12+c(113006)*18+(c(113007)+c(113008))*20) print(a,":",b,"Inventory Value:",k)

Display: Dingy Iron Coins: XXXX Inventory Value: XXX

If you prefer just the combined total of earned coins plus items currently in your inventory, use the following macro. It is tailored to items pickpocketed outside of Tanaan Jungle.

/run a,b=GetCurrencyInfo(980) c=GetItemCount k=(c(112995)*2+c(112996)*3+(c(112997)+c(113000))*4+c(112998)*5+(c(112999)+c(113001)+c(113004))*6+c(113002)*8+c(113003)*10+c(113005)*12+c(113006)*18+(c(113007)+c(113008))*20) print("Total Coin Earnings:",k+b)

Display: Total Coin Earnings: XXXX

Tanaan Jungle Item Count

This macro lists what the items in your inventory are cumulatively worth. It includes all items that can be pickpocketed within Tanaan Jungle.

/run c=GetItemCount k=(c(113000)*4+(c(113001)+c(113004))*6+c(113002)*8+c(113003)*10+c(113005)*12+c(113006)*18+(c(113007)+c(113008))*20+(c(127398)+c(127406))*40+(c(127400)+c(127404))*50+(c(127402)+c(127407))*60+c(127409)*250) print("Inventory Value:",k)

Display: Inventory Value: XXX

Target + Pickpocket Macro

This macro allows you to both target and pickpocket your target with one button. As long as the target is in front of you and in range, it will work. This is useful for the Tomb of Lights, where you don't want to be sapping targets.
Credit to Silvdragon for the macro

/cleartarget
/targetenemy
/stopmacro
/cast Pick Pocket

Sap + Pickpocket Mouseover Macro

This macro allows you to sap and pickpocket with a single button. It will also put a raid marker on your target. You do not have to worry about targeting any mobs either, as it is a mouseover macro. Simply mouse over the appropriate mob and click the macro.
For it to work optimally, you must be in range to pickpocket, and also must be standing still at the moment the macro is pressed. This macro is ideal to use in Giungla di Tanaan.
Credit to Sarthorius for the slightly modified macro

#showtooltip Pick pocket
/cleartarget
/use Sap
/use Pick Pocket
/run SetRaidTargetIcon("mouseover",4)

Commento di Gwyn976

You no longer need to go to Draenor if you want his goods as you can now buy all of them with Coins of Air which you can gather after doing a quest from him. I got the quest after I hit 110.

Commento di Tilra

You can no longer pick pocket the orcs that the draeneis are killing in Tomb of Lights.

Commento di Areana

If you buy any of these Rogue only items make sure you transmog into them once on the original char you purchased it on, otherwise it doesn't seem to show up on any of your rogue alts.

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