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Commento di 13483

Initial tactics taken from the Elitist Jerks forums:

Jan'alai has 2 major abilities, and at 35%ish hatches his remaining eggs(explained later)
- He has a 5 minute enrage that is rather unimportant, as it barely increases his damage.

1 - A "Flame breath" type cone that has a long range but a small width, this does about 4-5k to people in a single line and adds up fast (believe to be random target). It is important to minimize its damage by spreading out appropriatly.

2 - He will periodically teleport the entire raid to him, put up "flame walls" on the outer ring of his area so you cannot escape. He will then begin spawning "time bombs" randomly throughout his area. After approximatly 10 seconds they will blow up dealing 3-5k(?) dmg in a 5 yard area, so you need to find a spot that is safe and does not have fire bombs on it. This ability seems to be on a random timer as sometimes he will forget about it and other times he will spam it.

Throughout the fight he calls 2 "Hatchers"(Low HP) which run to the side and begin hatching eggs into dragonhawks at an increasing rate. You need to Kill 1 Hatcher as soon as possible and go give the 2nd one a hug, tanking and killing the dragonhawks he spawns (we would normally do about 5-7 hawks at a time and just draw out the fight).
When you are comfortable with the amount of hawks spawned, kil the hatcher and mop up the remaining hawks. This is the hardest part of the fight as you will have to heal alot of raid damage due to the small area of the egg platforms and the damage his fire breath does, you should assign at least one healer to go with the group that willl kill eggs, preferably one that is good at raid healing (CoH priest, resto shaman etc). The other difficult part of this fight is his ability to port and put up fire walls to the egg spawns while the hatchers are busy hatching eggs, causing you to get zerged so be careful!

The dragonhawks individually have a stacking flame buffet, and a fire damage based proc on top of their normal melee which is about 1k~ on leather.

The tactics to this boss are really, really simple
1) Minimize his fire breath damage when he isnt spawning hatchers
2) When hatchers spawn kill one, send the group to kill dragonhawks spawned by the other one.
3) Dont die to the fire bomb minigame.
4) Make sure you hatch almost ALL of the eggs before 35% (yes this means light dps for the entire fight), or you will be horribly zerged.
5) Profit

Commento di Raydawn

Known loot so far...

Arrow-fall Chestguard
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33328

Bulwark of the Amani Empire
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33326

Enamelled Disc of Mojo
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33332

Footpads of Madness
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33357

Helm of Natural Regeneration
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33356

Shadowtooth Trollskin Cuirass
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33329

Wub's Cursed Hexblade
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33354

Commento di Kreedos

Downed this boss tonight using a Warrior maintank and a Paladin offtank (me). When the hatchers first spawn, we killed one and let the other hatcher hatch all of the eggs on one side, I tanked them all and we focused AOE on the Dragonhawks. During the second spawn we killed one and let the other one spawn the rest of the dragonhawks on the other side. Did the same thing and burned them down. After all eggs are hatched, the hatchers stop spawning and you are free to just deal with the boss. As far as the bombs go, just as long as you aren't right on top of one, you won't take any damage. You can also reset this boss by just walking down the stairs, you can also do this if you addicently pull as well. Very easy fight once your group learns his abilities. Flame Buffet ability from the dragonhawks stacks indefinately, but is dispellable.

-Spread out
-Kill Dragonhawk eggs thoughout the fight
-Avoid dying to the bombs
-Ignore enrage timer (This does almost nothing to a well geared tank)

Commento di zork

This boss is very easy if you have a paladin offtank. If you do not have a paladin tank and use a warrior or a druid they will have a very hard time to keep aggro off all the hatchlings that must be spawned (to not get owned at 35%). Actually it won't work since your healers will pull aggro or your dps if you start bombing to fast. Priests should be very carefull in healing when dragonhawks spawn or they will get owned very fast.

Btw the hatcher will hatch eggs at an increasing rate (One at first, then 3, 5 etc.). So just check the number of eggs before you start the encounter and determine how many eggs per hatchers should be opened. Hatchers are stunable, so stun-kill the first is a good choice. The hatchers have no aggro-table (they will try to go for eggs always) so you can go all out.

Its best to use the Morogrim strategy here and have one paladin (even heal-specced) tank all the hawks.
After the paladin has build enough threat burn them down.

Commento di 99822

Down this boss. On adds, we let both hatchers live and let them hatched 3 eggs on each side and then killed them. We did a sequenced of 3-3-3-3-3, which only spawned 6 adds per side. Once the boss hit his fake enraged, we let only 2 eggs opened per side when they spawned and killed 2 more eggs. It left us with 1 egg per side when the boss was left with 35% health, max dps burned and the 2 adds were killed by paly. Had a paly & rogue on east side and paly & hunter on west side for adds.

Commento di 18690

A hint for the tanks or anyone who is having trouble finding a safe spot. Jan'Alai will never throw a bomb directly underneath himself. As a matter of fact, just hanging out near the middle, will make it very easy for you to find a safe spot. Just turn your camera so that it's facing down towards the ground so that you can see open spots better.

He tends to throw the bombs in waves, starting with the insides first, then middle, then outside. Thats why when you're running to a spot that you think is free, only to have him throw a bomb right there. This never happens near the middle b/c of these waves.

One risk you run is too many people stacking on top of each other for the frontal fire breathe, so dont have the entire raid there, I'd say at most have a tank, 1 melee dps, and 1 tree form druid (since they move so slow).

Commento di 96803

We did this with a Warrior MT, had a Paladin off-tank the adds, and two Mages in PvP gear.

Had the two Paladins in the party BoP the first side of eggs each Mage and cleared it on one attempt. The next side was cleared using Ice Blocks and rooting in one attempt.

We ended up clearing each sides in one pull and had Jan all to ourselves with no adds to deal with at all. If you have a group like this with two Mages I'd recommend it, we sat around 10-11k hp with the PvP gear on and saved the rest of the raid a lot of trouble.

Commento di drowsy

Seeing as our raid had a lot of melee and just one true aoe class in it, we decided to do this a little different. The tank, along with one healer and shadowpriest went to one hatchery while the rest of the raid went to the other, and we took out all eggs in one go. After the first teleport, we swapped sides and cleared the other side. Then it was just a zerg to the end. This tactic doesn't even require a second tank as rogues/dps warriors or even enh shamans can easily take the damage, even with one healer.

The only risk in this tactic is the first breath after a teleport, but that's easily avoidable if people just stay away from each other until the tank has moved the boss.

Commento di intuit

Have any other warrior tanks notice that they take a lot of crushing blows during this fight? I consider myself to be a good tank, have tanked up to the beginning of BT, and I rarely take crushing blows on bossfights...but after 2 attempts on this guy I noticed he averaged about 10crushes per attempt.. and I was spamming shield block just like on any other fight (esp after noticing the amount of crushes I took on the first attempt). The crushes only hit for about 3k..but still...

Commento di Elqqura

Strategy from Bosskillers
http://www.bosskillers.com/cgi-bin/bbguild/index.cgi?action=view_guide&guide_id=255&sid=zWl9yy83UV

how to video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-KYctnFjdw

Commento di 123976

Intuit, The Black Temple Bosses have around 9.47% 'Crushing Blow Chance', so yeh.. it is a bit of 'high' for an instance as Zul'Aman.

<Tanj> 70 Female Troll Priest, 70. <Aerial> T6.

Commento di Kathucka

After a hatcher takes care of all the eggs on one side, he'll run to the other side and start his business there.

One tactic that works for the eggs:

Kill one hatcher with extreme prejudice. Let the other hatch all the eggs.

A tankadin drops consecration where the dragonhawks fly onto the main platform. A hunter drops a frost (slowing) trap right in front of that. The slowing effect allows the consecration to hit the dragonhawks a couple times and guarantees that the tankadin picks them up.

Naturally, whoever has AoE uses it. Seed of Corruption works best. With a few characters doing AoE, the dragonhawks will drop before they have a chance to get more than one or two hits off.

Once the hatcher is done with all the eggs, he'll run over to the other side and get to work on the eggs over there. Kill him, instead, as fire bombs will be coming out.

On the next wave, kill both hatchers immediately, unless the tankadin has so few debuffs that he'll survive.

On the third wave, let the hatchers take care of the rest of the eggs.

After that, it's just a matter of dodging bombs, tanking, and spanking.

Commento di 141945

As of 2.4 when he spawns the fire eggs he no longer teleports people to the center of the arena.

Commento di pepperspray1991

Hunters: Keep your pet dismissed until all eggs have been burned. The bombs will kill your pet if not fully specced in fire resist.

Commento di Serai

in my opinion the hardest of the 4 animal bosses
mostly because there are so many ways you can wipe

A: after the soft enrage the tank gets nuked
B: the adds kill some of the more squishy dps (this mostly happens when suddenly all dps on adds is cought in a flame breath)
C: a late grenade locks one of the raid members in and one shots him
D: the hatcher lives one tick to long
E: you hit 35% at a really lousy time

Commento di Mordachi

"... properly positioning yourself properly, even in some cases you may be seemingly surrounded by bombs."

Seems kinda redundant.

Commento di 152722

We had a paladin tank so we killed one hatcher and let the other hatch all the eggs on the side. Me (mage) and a lock AoE'd them down and repeated the process when the other hatcher came. Then we just went all out on the boss.

also, this was my first time there so i actually took damage from a bomb; i didn't know how far away you can stand, but its about 5-8 yards

Commento di 20276

It seems since the last patch, he no longer teleports the group to him before he starts the fire bomb game.

Commento di 134143

Tocked co. is back!

EZ EZ EZ fight! This is not a dps fight it is a common sense fight. When he summons fiery balls find an open space because they explode and aoe you. He will do flame breath randomly to some side of him which should only hit one player so stay spread out. He will summon hatcher to hatch the eggs on the platforms near him. Have a melee dps pick off one of the hatcher and have a pally
tank pick up the dragonhawks with aoe taunt. All dps especially warlocks and mages should be killing these adds. Once one side is dead move on to the next, to make it rly ez put slow dps on janalai and only let a few eggs hatch at a time... But remember at 35% janalai hatches ALL the eggs so be sure to kill all the eggs before him.

Commento di rhoark

No one should ever get "trapped" or "surprised" by a bomb. He always lays the bombs starting close to him and moving outward. If you pick a safe spot among the early bombs, where the late bombs land are no concern to you.

Commento di Alderaan

If you complete the time event (Zul'Aman Time Event) for Jan'alai, you can open the Kraz's Package and receive one of the items of level 141 (Kraz's Package).

Enjoy.

Commento di 166486

Easily the best looking boss in Zul'Aman. He just looks so mighty and every inch the god he is.
Is he considered the hardest avatar? I know Halazzi is usually done last but that is because of the timed event... Some help on this matter would be really cool.

Commento di DarthRahn

My guild always doing different strategy here, it's faster but requires good aoe power.

Raid composition:
-MT(warrior)
-Druid offtank
-2-3 healers
-5-6 dps.

Strategy:
1)Once hatchers spawn - kill them both.
2)Another spawn - kill again both.
3)Everybody should watch at boss health percentage, once he reaches 40% all must run to boss tank. Warlocks start casting SoC on boss.
4)At 35% all adds will spawn! Warrior tank should use shield wall and once adds close mass taunt them. Having good hit rating is neccessary for this trick.
Your dps will have 6 seconds to burn all the down. You may not do this from first time but this strategy works(because we always use it) well. Even possible to kill the boss before enrage timer.

Additionaly you can have warrior offtank doing same trick with shield wall+mass taunt.

Commento di deolrin

Err... Aren't they supposed to hate dragonhawks...? After all, they are tamed by they sworn enemies...

Commento di 288273

BEST BOSS EVER

Commento di 167903

Jan'alai yells : Tzaga-choo!
Hex Lord Malacrass yells : Bless you!

Commento di 382736

http://radikal.ru/F/i057.radikal.ru/0906/da/6eeec90e85d9.jpg.html Ahahhahahahahahhahahaha it is a bag in this boss in one pirate server. Some thousands of mobs had fallen the server. Very funny bag, is not it?))) kwinta russian server onward))))

Commento di 144425

http://www.sk-gaming.com/video/123268-Zulaman_Solo_Dragonhawk_Boss

^Linky to a Feral Druid soloing this boss @ 80. It doesn't show his gear/spec though. But (s)/he did make the first timed chest (just barely, 1 min to go).

Seems that the lil dragonhawks' Flame Buffet misses quite often at 80, and as long as you don't stand in the bombs, you should be fine.

For people trying to get executioner, it may be the route to go.

Commento di IsWindy

Soloed as a prot paladin: holy shield , sacred shield , judgement of light.
You will conserve your mana better if you only let one side hatch and make sure the other is left alone until the current adds die (mana from block means you can spam your abilities on boss=> he dies faster). Stay out of fire bombs.

easiest of the 4 animal bosses by far ( was a different story when i was actualy doing bear runs in TBC :P)

Commento di emidas

Soloable as a Blood DK. Spawned adds go down relatively quick with dnd + pestilenced diseases, and the incoming damage is trivial. Done as a DPS spec in tanking gear with little to no difficulty.

Like the Pally above me stated this was, in my opinion, the hardest of the four animal avatars when ZA was first released (until you got the fight down, then it was pretty easy). However, at 80, he is the easiest to solo.

Commento di 463230

Soloed as a BM hunter (with the t5 2 piece bonus)
Keep your pet on the boss, and kill the hatchers as soon as they spawn. Of course avoid the explosions. When he hatches all of the eggs, they'll come after you, so just feign death and they'll go back to their spot and stay there. Unload everything you have when he Enrages at 25%. But overall, the only problem you may encounter is being able to kill him before he kills you with Flame Breath.

Commento di 211544

GET TO WORK ON DEM EGGS!

Commento di Skorpion9x

Super easy solo on my Feral Druid in nearly all BiS cat gear, tank spec. Killed one hatcher that spawned and let the other go to town. Swipes one-shotted most of the dragonhawks that spawned. In the end, I only had like 8 stacks of flame buffet. The boss himself was a pushover.

Commento di Nobbel

In Cataclysm he can very easily be done solo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0og9aDdTBs

Commento di 314557

Soloed as a level 85 balance druid in 361 ilvl, stayed in solar eclipse the entire time. I let one hatcher spawn the entire side of hawks and killed them as they flew toward me. Then I healed myself back to full, brought him to 35%, and killed the other side of hawks with the mushrooms that I had previously placed on the ramp.

Commento di Ketho

Come, strangers. The spirit of da dragonhawk be hungry for worthy souls.
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\creature\\JanAlai\\JanAlaiEvent01.ogg")
Come, friends. Your bodies gonna feed ma hatchlings, and your souls are going to feed me with power!
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\creature\\JanAlai\\JanAlaiEvent02.ogg")
Spirits of da wind be your doom!
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\creature\\JanAlai\\JanAlaiAggro.ogg")
It all be over now, mon!
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\creature\\JanAlai\\JanAlaiSlay01.ogg")
Tazaga-choo!
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\creature\\JanAlai\\JanAlaiSlay02.ogg")
I burn ya now! Bomba di Fuoco
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\creature\\JanAlai\\JanAlaiFirebombs.ogg")
Where ma hatcha? Get to work on dem eggs!
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\creature\\JanAlai\\JanAlaiSummonHatcher.ogg")
I show you strength... in numbers. Uova Schiuse @ 35%
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\creature\\JanAlai\\JanAlaiAllEggs.ogg")
You done run outta time!
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\creature\\JanAlai\\JanAlaiBerserk.ogg")
Zul'jin... got a surprise for you...
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\creature\\JanAlai\\JanAlaiDeath.ogg")

PTR 4.1.0.13875 -- 2011.04.12

97855 SPELL_CAST_START, SPELL_AURA_APPLIED, SPELL_DAMAGE
97497 Alito di Fuoco SPELL_AURA_APPLIED, SPELL_PERIODIC_DAMAGE
42630 Bomba di Fuoco SPELL_DAMAGE
42621 Bomba di Fuoco UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED
42628 Bomba di Fuoco UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED
43114 Muro di Fuoco SPELL_AURA_APPLIED, SPELL_AURA_REFRESH, SPELL_PERIODIC_DAMAGE (This is the boundary wall)
44779 Frenesia SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS, SPELL_AURA_APPLIED
43144 Uova Schiuse UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED
43098 Teletrasporto: Centro UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED
43096 Evocazione: Tutti i Personaggi UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED
43962 Evocazione: Incubatore Amani'shi UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED
45340 Evocazione: Incubatore Amani'shi UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED

-- Uovo di Dragofalco N/A
-- Incubatore Amani'shi N/A
-- Incubatore Amani'shi
42471 Uova Schiuse UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED

-- Cucciolo di Dragofalco Amani
43299 Folata delle Fiamme SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS, SPELL_AURA_APPLIED, SPELL_AURA_APPLIED_DOSE, SPELL_DAMAGE

Commento di Malsherz

This boss has been updated as a level 85 heroic mob, fights very much the same as it was back at lvl 70. You can apply practically the same strategy as has already been suggested without too many issues.

Commento di Dorf

Honestly, when I run it i have the hatchers killed immediately, as soon as they spawn. I let all the hawks come out at once, AoE them up and CD rotate. every time I've tried this boss with this strat I've killed him. And I'm in 346-353 gear with 359 sword, cloak, bracers, shield, belt (crafted/rep)

Group composition:

Arcane Mage
Protection Paladin
Restoration Druid
Marksmanship Hunter
Combat Rogue

That is the composition I have used on two occasions, and one-shot this guy. As you can see it's hardly ideal but still has a fairly high amount of AoE.

Also; it should be noted as of 4.1.0 this boes does not add on to the timed run timer when killed. Most likley this is not intended, but each boss gives 5 minutes when killed and there are 4 bosses, this may be intended so you only have a grand total of 30 minutes to finish every boss upto and excluding Hex Lord Malacrass for a chance at the bear.

Commento di 798034

OK just to make this fight real simple.
Jan'alia really doesnt hit for much. its his hatchlings that can be a problem.
think of the encounter sortof like Maloriak. if u dont kill enough adds he'll release all that are left at like.. 20%.

anyway

it should be noted that Dragon hatchlings have a stacking flame buffet debuff they put on anyone getting aggro of them (most likely the tank) so as a prot pally i would simply gain about 40 stacks then bubble outta it for a sec once i had full aggro and they were almost dead.
(bubbling does drop all threat so be sure to clickoff bubble right after btw)

DPS must aoe them down quickly and in small groups to avoid confusion. we usually leave 1 hatcher up for each rotation

in short.
avoid the flame breath.
aoe the adds.
avoid the fire bombs.
and win.

Commento di Rhadegund

it should be noted that Dragon hatchlings have a stacking flame buffet debuff they put on anyone getting aggro of them (most likely the tank) so as a prot pally i would simply gain about 40 stacks then bubble outta it for a sec once i had full aggro and they were almost dead.

No need to bubble, 1 dispel from a healer removes ALL stacks.

Commento di 584528

This boss is pretty much hell for my Warrior to tank. Thunderclap has a 6 second cooldown, hits like a wet noodle slap and is only used to spread debuffs, glyphed Shockwave has a 17 second cooldown. So when a hatcher is doing their thing - Thunderrend the 1st set of adds, Heroic Leap the 2nd, Thunderrend, Shockwave, Thunderrend 3rd 4th and 5th, and that's almost enough AoE to cover just establishing threat on the spawn of one side - unfortunately, the last wave of spawns is also the largest and you're out of tools, so blow Challenging Shout.

For the second side I would recommend just letting them all spawn at once when he hits the threshold - Thunderrend, Shockwave, and blow a cooldown to survive. If you're raid geared you might be able to let both sides all spawn at once, but I'm not.

Commento di 618815

There's a zandalari juggernaut in the trash pack before this boss. Mages can spellsteal their Tectonic Plating off them, then melee the boss for some rather inane damage. The AE from the buff also kills dragonhawks rather quickly.

Commento di Centaurian

An ice trap or other slow effect slows the hatchers and they can be dps'd down each time so you never get any hatchlings. An off-tank and rdps should switch focus on them, one left and one right. Jan'alai does not announce the hatchers a second time so watch for them when they spawn at the bottom of the steps. If you can do this two times the boss should be about dead. Ya mon! Try to stay near the steps because the boss is a big target and can block the targeting of the hatchers if your too close to him.
If you get a batch of them all should focus on AOE and CC to take them down as they cause high fire damage and you will lose the cloth gear first. The hatchlings should never reach the boss since the tank pulls him to the opposite side from where they came out. They go straight to the tank first (can't be off-tanked) and then fan out towards the whole group. Healer must drop the tank here and dps so a potion or stance change may be needed.
I was able to count 5 hatchlings per hatcher dealing damage so even if you have to step in something get to the steps and kill the hatchers. Your healer will top you off.
There is no time like the present to compare gear damage and have that person need for Norkani's reward remembering that this is fun.
I don't know why it is advisable to have several waves of them when you can have none at all.
Note that by the end of the fight when his health is low there will be two hatchers per side so you should save your dps trinkets for the end of fight to max out damage on Jan. The hatchlings despawn when boss goes down.

Commento di therailz

i dont really understand what you are saying, where can the tank pull the boss to that the birds can never reach, they come from either side and at 30 percent they all hatch, so are you suggesting burn the boss in the time it takes them to get to the middle of the platform or have some amazing ability that can cc 30 mobs while you finish him off, also that doesn't seem like "none at all" no matter how you look at it, seriously am i missing some key element here?

Commento di godded

The fight in general is quite easy as long as the healer understands that he can remove the whole stack of Folata delle Fiamme on the tank with just 1 dispel.

Generally I dispel my tank when he is on like 8+ stacks, makes the healing very trivial and reduces the chance of fail even if he should get hit by .

Commento di Zieg0re

Is it just me or does a Death Knight seem to be the perfect tank for this encounter? Since Scudo Antimagia prevents you from being debuffed you can tank the adds via and diseases or pack the whole 35% group with Morte e Distruzione.

Also, lots of panic buttons for the soft enrage. I'm looking forward to gaining the last 2 ilvls granting me access to ZA :-).

Done this yesterday with my DK and it worked perfectly. Although the trash before Jan'Alai still is the most horrible thing I've ever witnessed when being without proper anti-humanoid cc...

...make sure your DPS is AoE-ing the adds right, some people still tend to think those can be tanked throughout the whole fight... PUGs ftw

Commento di Nobbel

How to: Solo Zul'Aman & Zul'Gurub Heroic in Mists of Pandaria. Also includes the achievements.
http://youtu.be/fzmR5JiNQmo

Eroica		Mitica
Letale		Importante
Difensore		Assaltatore
Guaritore		Interrompibile
Magia		Maledizione
Veleno		Malattia
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