To be clear here, ClassicLFG will still work and this will most likely start a cat and mouse game between Blizzard and AddOn devs. Instead of trying to communicate, classic @WarcraftDevs once again chose to ignore our request for open dialog.https://t.co/iB40hfzltP— WeakAuras (@WeakAuras) August 24, 2019
To be clear here, ClassicLFG will still work and this will most likely start a cat and mouse game between Blizzard and AddOn devs. Instead of trying to communicate, classic @WarcraftDevs once again chose to ignore our request for open dialog.https://t.co/iB40hfzltP
@LeyllinI enjoyed your comment!To the best of my understanding, the addon also allows you to see talent point allocation, gearscore, and automatically invite people to groups, so it’s a bit beyond what was available in TBC and most of WotLK. I’m not sure it would have drawn the same attention from Blizzard if it had just matched TBC functionality, although that still would have been anachronistic.It is *possible* to opt out of the optimisation fixation - but you have to make the deliberate choice to do so and be willing to stick to it in the face of peer pressure. I certainly wouldn’t suggest that it’s for everyone (and it gets progressively less feasible the harder the content, although I was cheerfully keyboard-turning my way through WotLK hard modes and no-one noticed until I told them because I was very good at it), and I would argue very strongly against any game design that didn’t account for the fact that most gamers will absolutely act against their own preferences and even best interests if something is considered optimal.I’m not sure how I feel about Questie. I never ran with any questing addons, but I’m a TBC baby rather than a Vanilla one and I very much missed the ability to see the exclamation points on my minimap during the stress test... I might see if I can disable the rest of the features, though.
I don’t give a toss about streamers of any stripe, but I still didn’t want the addon to work in Classic. Why do people think that streamers were the only ones to object to it?
For people with a grievance against Questie, I think it's important to note quests are not completed for you. We had quest add-ons with increasing degrees of sophistication back in Vanilla. None were automated. Questie is possibly more advanced than those we had back in Vanilla (my memory is a little unsure on this), but by the time TBC rolled around there were a few add-ons that were arguably better than Questie is now.Additionally while some group creation tools did exist back in Vanilla later on they did not automate the process, their use was not widespread. PVP grouping ones being the exception whilst in the BG instance.As for it being a Streamer conspiracy, good grief, listen to yourself. Next you'll be telling us JeT fUeL mAkEs FrOgS bUiLd pYrAmIdS fOr ThE sEcReT sQuIrReL cArTeL. Get a grip people.
if you dont like it dont get it its literally that easy. dont punish me because you dont like having options
I am glad Blizzard took a stand on no lfg in classic. Classic was created for the player base that wanted the vanilla experience and charm. To lure the people that had been playing on illegal private severs. These people loved classic so much and worked hard at keeping it just that. I am thankful that Blizzard, for what ever reason, also worked hard at giving us a way to play vanilla/classic. The difference in retail and classic is big and should stay that way. It's a way to play world of warcraft two totally different ways. Please do not change this, everyone is playing classic for different reasons and there is no right /wrong to play a game that is a RP game and that is the charm. Classic/vanilla is a unique way of playing world of warcraft and if you want things like LFG you can go to retail it has the same starting zones and all the QOL stuff already in it. I can't wait for Classic and I will still play some Retail as well because for me it's like two different games.Hope to see you soon and safe journeys friends
The problem with LFG in general is that it broke the power of the guilds. Guilds were an extremely important part of the play experience in Vanilla, and Classic isn't Vanilla if it doesn't include the social experience.Before server transfers, before you could get into any raid or five man through an LFG tool, you had to build and rely on a social network. Returning the anonymous no-one-knows-each-other groups of BfA to Classic would entirely change instancing.
I gotta thank you for throwing in the part about being a little nub brand new to the game running around in a capital city and seeing those amazing level 60 players decked out in the most awesome gear ever. It gave me cold chills because I specifically remember that happening to me, and I will always remember seeing him for the first time and what awe I was in, indeed! I even remember his name; <Scarab Lord Spanky>, a warrior on Onyxia! Oh my goodness, oh my goodness, I cannot WAIT until tomorrow! :D
I am glad they're listening to the community as well as forming strong standards for creating the best experience possible. One can only hope it's indicative of a pattern to correct for mistakes they've learned from retail.This is good news.
Just bring back openraid, then you at least get reputation points and blacklists.
They must disable the Azerot Auto pilot addon or whatever they called it or the addon which informs you where to go to complete the quest.
They will not break any other addons. They have downloaded LFG and decompiled it. They saw the coding, understood what was going on, checked the coding compatibility with other addons and their UI coding, measured 3x and cut 1x. That's it. "Don't worry, bout thin', cause every little thin' , is gonna be alright".
I've been using this website to find groups classicwowgroups.com
I love it how people say this should be and that shouldn't be allowed. You lot wanted classic, deal with the fact that nowadays many people will try to ease up the pain of actually PLAYING classic as it was. It is definitely not Blizzard's job to tell addon devs on what they can and what they can not make. They have to wing everything to appease the majority of wow community. Addon developers basically make stuff to ease up the gameplay. There's gonna be so many people that are gonna start playing classic and then stop just because they realize that the time they spent back then is most definitely not worth spending now as everything is faster in 2019, almost 2020. Personally, I'd put a restrain on every single thing that takes away the vanilla feeling no matter how many people complain. Sodapoppin put a nice touch on how the new players trying out classic will feel:" Oh so much hype about this classic wow, gotta try it. Oh damn, a 10 hour que, must be a good game. Logs in and sees all these people grinding like mental to collect items for a 5% bump in their experience bar, drinking, eating constantly and what not. Nope gonna spend my time on a game that actually feels fulfilling"That's what the difference is between 2004 and 2019. Face it!
For all that they’ve generally been very permissive, Blizzard has always put restrictions on addons and have banned addons on several occasions. Of course it’s their job to protect the integrity of their game. They aren’t obligated to inform addon devs in advance of what the limits are, though, since that would just lead to rules lawyering if and when someone came up with something that they hadn’t considered but still didn’t want.