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WoW Economy Weekly Wrap-Up: Deposit Costs, 8.3 Auction House Updates plus Hallow's End!
19/10/2019 alle 13:12
WoW Economy Weekly Wrap-Up
Welcome to the 98th edition of the WoW Economy Weekly Wrap-up! In this edition we're taking a look at Deposit costs, updates from Blizzard on the upcoming 8.3 Auction House overhaul plus gold-making in Hallow's End!
If you're new to this series or want to re-visit past posts, you can
check out the previous articles right here on wowhead.com
My name is
and I’m the lead moderator for the
and the accompanying
. I am also the Support/Community Manager & User Evangelist for
, the Auction House addon suite for World of Warcraft. I hope to cover and showcase some of the interesting topics, discussions, content and guides that have been going on over the last week in the gold making community. Some that you might have missed as a veteran gold maker, or you might be interested in checking out for the first time as a new or aspiring ‘goblin’.
The format will not be that of a traditional guide, but links to further reading with commentary and opinions of my own. I will be looking at the bigger picture, the decision making and thought processes in being a gold maker – rather than a step by step instructional list. As the saying goes, “give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime”.
The Lazy Goldmaker discussed Deposit costs on his blog this week
. Deposits are often an unseen force that wreak havoc on your initial gold-making strategies. Eating away at margins or lowering the actual value of an item you're trying to sell because it'll cost too much to position it in a good state to sell.
Differences between BfA and Classic
BfA and Classic have different mechanics for calculating deposit costs which means that the optimal stack sizes and optimal strategies are different between the two versions.
Some things are similar between both versions, and that is the basic functionality. You pay the deposit cost when you post an auction, and you get it back if the auction sells. Otherwise it is lost. The cost is based on the auction duration with a higher cost for higher durations. For most items in both versions the vendor sell price is the basis for the deposit cost, with one notable exception in BfA.
Classic deposit costs all scale with the vendor sale price. So posting one stack of 20 or 20 stacks of 1 for the same material will cost you the exact same amount of gold. Duration is the only thing that will change it. This might indicate that you should mostly post in small stacks, as it increases the chance you sell at least some of the items.
The main thing you want to avoid in classic is to post items for sale that are just selling for barely more than the vendor price. Unless the price you can expect to sell it for is at least 5 times the vendor sell price you should probably not post it (some fast selling materials can be exempt, but even then it should be 3 times vendor sell to have enough margin for error). The lower the vendor cost, the cheaper it is to post. For some markets this matters and you can use it. For others it doesn’t help. You can’t change the vendor price of crafted goods. You can choose to flip lower vendor cost materials though.
For the most part deposit costs work exactly the same as in classic, so the logic is exactly the same. With one important exception. Materials in BfA have a deposit cost that is based on 20% of the per item price. This means that posting 200 stacks of 1 will be 200 times more expensive than posting 1 stack of 200.
The implication is simple. Post materials in larger stack sizes. 20 or bigger is more than OK and will give you a pretty good margin of error for material flipping.
This won't need to be adhered to for long, as the 20% buyout deposit has been confirmed to be removed in the 8.3 Auction House overhaul, thankfully. Blizzard shared some more information on this in a recent update to the feedback thread on the community forums.
A full list of responses can be viewed in this news post here on Wowhead.com
, but here are some of my highlights:
Thank you to everyone who has provided feedback so far!
Sold Auctions Display
It might be useful to have a tab for sold items so you can keep track during the hour between when an item sells and when you receive the gold for it.
To make testing easier on the PTR, the delay between the time of sale and when the proceeds are delivered is currently set to 5 minutes. During this 5 minutes, your sold auctions should appear in your Auctions tab at the top.
If this is not happening, it’s a bug. When Visions of N’Zoth is live, delivery of auction proceeds will have the usual delay of 60 minutes.
When I’m posting Pets, I’d like to post 2-5 at a time, but with the new system you have to create a new listing for each.
Thank you for the feedback. We’re looking into changing this.
Just curious how you’re going to handle pets. Technically any one particular pet can be 25 different pets because it can be 25 different levels.
All versions of the same pet will be grouped in the same page. Since the auctions on that page will be mix of various levels, rarities, and stats, it’ll be up to the buyer to determine which pet they want to buy.
Auction House Funcionality
Can we set a duration longer than 48 hours?
At this time, we’re continuing with the 48-hour max duration the WoW auction house has always had.
With the new search, can we wildcard a search for weapons without the “…of the tiger”? e.g. Notorious Combatant’s Intuitive Staff* would search all types of that item regardless of secondary stats.
We don’t have wildcard functionality, but you can simply search for the first few words (example: Notorious Combatant’s Intuitive Staff) and it will return all items matching that.
Can we search on attributes of an item (30 mastery) instead of item name (enchant ring - seal of mastery)?
Not at this time, but thank you for the suggestion.
Sadly the zippy mail and instant sale delivery is simply a quality of life improvement for testing on the PTR. At least we know now that it's actually possible, and I will continue to hope that Blizzard decide to implement this as a permanent feature on live realms. Being able to post for longer than 48 hours has been another long-term request, with this new last-in-first-out system it may make less sense - but you can still post strategically at a higher price earlier in the week with expectations that prices will rise during the weekly reset for example. That'd be a nice 'set it and forget it' situation for many gold-makers.
Do you pay attention to deposit costs when you're dealing with your auctions? Have you changed your posting strategy from retail to classic?
It's that time of year again and the candy buckets of Azeroth are ready for grabbing. This is a very popular gold-making holiday event, as you can collect a bunch of different items to resell during the off-season later in the year.
Komlit has prepared a video
and a spreadsheet to guide you through the best way to make gold while the Headless Horseman is in town.
A link to the spreadsheet was
shared on reddit
, and can be
Moneta dalle Mille Facce
that you'll be targeting is a prime example of a 'bandwagon' market as I like to call it. If you're not all that fussed on farming in general you can simply let other players do the leg work and buy them off the Auction House during the event. Inevitably the price will race to 0 as more and more people try and sell the seasonal items while they're still available. Demand will be at its lowest and supply will steadily increase. You can see the affect this has on the price historically with the chart from The Undermine Journal.
EU Region prices for
Moneta dalle Mille Facce
since early 2016
You can clearly see the trend, and it's economics 101. The more item there is available, the cheaper the price will be. You don't need to sell the item immediately, you can buy it now - or hold on it it after farming, and sell for a higher profit in future. This of course means you can't tie up your 'worth' in items that you're not going to be reselling immediately. If you've only got a few thousand gold, don't spend it all on things you have to wait 6 months before trying to sell again.
Will you be farming this Hallow's End? Have you cashed in on predictable market trends for holiday items?
Most of this information was discussed and originally posted on the
or in the accompanying
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