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Commento di 6918

Drops from Kael'thas Sunstrider in heroic Magisters' Terrace.

Slightly more DPS than the Halazzi shoulders, and you have 3x as many chances to go and get them. They don't look fancy (black/red Assassination) but expect to see them on many Rogue and Druid shoulders.

Commento di 131907

For a rogue that is still in Kara where do these rate against Bladed Shoulderpads of the Merciless(when socketed with 2x 8 hit gems) http://wowhead.com/?item=28755 ?

Commento di zioncommand

I just got these today and imo I find them better than T5 shoulders. Cant go wrong with 23 hit rating :)

Commento di Jommers

These shoulders are a lot better than the Karazhan ones, even when accounting for the 2 sockets, same with the ZA shoulders, the large amounts of agi easily offset the sockets and crit rating of the Karazhan shoulders.

I don't think this is correct. Bladed Shoulderpads of the Mercilles are still better thanks to the 2 sockets for +8 hit gems.

Commento di s3rgi0

As with all pieces of gear, the only comparison you can make is by looking at your own stats, and see where you are lacking.

From http://www.wowwiki.com/Hit

The chance to hit increases by 1% per 15.77 hit rating points at level 70.

Compared to Bladed Shoulderpads of the Merciless with 2 x +8 hit gems (which gives them 32 Hit Rating), these have:

+39 Attack Power
-0.57 Hit Chance (-9 Hit Rating)
-0.075 Crit Chance (ya rly, lol math ftw)
(and then +2 sta and +23 AC)

So in the end, it's up to your current values and chances of getting other gear in the near future.

On a personal note, I am currently looking forward to getting these to mix and match with other gear (got Bladed Shoulderpads of the Merciless).

Anyway, a good place to give you insight on rogue gear is at http://shadowpanther.net (beware, lots of tables and numbers tho :P).

Cheers

Commento di 83139

according to max dps this shoulder outlasts the dps from the one from kara and the one from za as a combat rogue

Commento di snailbutter

People, please... don't fall victim to the SACRIFICE EVERYTHING FOR HIT! mantra that some rogues have in their heads. An upgrade is an upgrade. This belief comes from the rogue forums where most posters took theory craft, turn it into a personal affair, and then judge people based on the amount of hit they have.

An easy comparison is, the kara shoulders have an item level of 115. These have 125. They have much more stat value, and you gain more if anything from the pure agi rather then "ratings" stats.

You also can't really look at one item by itself. You need to know what you need to help upgrade you as a whole. That's why spreadsheets are important. It helps you determine if that one piece of gear is an upgrade.

In this case, I believe these are a nice upgrade over the chess event ones. No more hit is the only stats rogues have drabble, please

Commento di 112935

Are those shoulder better then the T4 ones? what do u say guys? IMO i say yea but i m in a dilema here cuz i have them on and just got the T4 last night.

Commento di Aindrind

From a rogue standpoint, based off of the AEP values on EJ for a combat swords rogue in T4-level gear (This is counted as T5, but the only difference is higher EP for both, the result is the same)

Netherblade Shoulderpads
Binds when picked up
Shoulder Leather
284 Armor
+20 Agility //43.8 EP
+38 Stamina
+8 hit
+8 hit
Durability 70 / 70
Classes: Rogue
Requires Level 70
Equip: Improves hit rating by 13 (0.82% @ L70). // 29 hit = 65.83 EP
Equip: Increases attack power by 52. // 52 EP

Total EP: 161.63

Shoulderpads of the Silvermoon Retainer
Binds when picked up
Shoulder Leather
296 Armor
+35 Agility //76.65 EP
+32 Stamina
Durability 70 / 70
Requires Level 70
Equip: Improves hit rating by 23 (1.46% @ L70). //52.21 EP
Equip: Increases attack power by 62. //62 EP

Total EP: 191.16

This is a pretty big upgrade over T4 rogue shoulders assuming you've socketed them with +8 hit. If you're going to lose the 2-pc, it's probably not an upgrade, but you should double check by running it through your spreadsheet first. I'm not sure on the AEP value of the 4-pc, but since it doesn't stack with Ruthlessness it's probably still an upgrade.

Commento di Sharburg

Is it worth losing your 15% chance to gain a combo point for the rest of the stats?

Commento di 37891

This and merciless gladiators spaulders are pretty much on par. (when gemmed correctly)

More stam and crit on merciless gladiators. No haste.

Little more AP and 23 haste on these. But obviously no sockets.

I had already shoulder enchanted my merciless gladiator spaulders with the +26 AP enchant from aldor holy dust, but it's still pretty close.

Commento di 189601

gimpy? for wanting lots of HR? no. 900dps on bosses and loving all the hit you can get. combat rogues need lots of hit. you dont hit you do no damage, you dont regen energy, you do fewer special moves. agility, AP ect can be made up for with the right enchants. i sit at 265 HR and 1800 AP, almost no gems other then HR or HR/agility with only a few so my meta works that i would not want. if your assassination or sub you dont need as much hit but a combat rogue needs alot to hit with there off-hand and get the energy regen

Commento di nick12322

These things are amazing. I know of a rogue who replaced his t5's with these. I only replaced some blue shoulders i had so i didn't need to think twice =)

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