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Commento di 1437

This idol used to be --> "Reduces the rage cost of Maul and Swipe by 3."
In 2.0.3 it was changed to --> "Increases the damage dealt by your Maul and Swipe ability by 50."
In 2.0.10 it was changed to --> "Increases the damage dealt by your Maul ability by 50 and Swipe ability by 10."

Currently, a very lackluster idol compared to what you can get in TBC.

Commento di yutt

The previous ability of this relic was:
Equip: Reduces the rage cost of Maul and Swipe by 3.

The updated version is no where near as useful. :/

Commento di 10757

when was this changed? I had mine drop last week and it has the "equip: reduces the rage cost of maul and swipe by 3" on it?... very odd.

Commento di Merowlin

It got changed from "-3 rage on maul and swipe" to "50 damage on maul and swipe" in patch 2.0.3.
Bad change IMO, the previous version was great for tanking (of which blizzard has stated is one of the primary roles for Druids in BC).
We can only pray they add a new "-rage cost" idol.

- Merowlin

Commento di Alar

I agree that this idol was nerfed bigtime. The reduced rage cost was amazing. In fact, I spent about 15 runs in UD strat primarily for this idol in its OLD form. In this new form, I almost want to just throw it away.

If you happen to get it, great. If not, dont go hunting for it because it really isnt very good.

Commento di 11511

This idol is still good for bear form. With crits at level 67, with crit rate at 28% I keep spamming swipe while tanking - swipe crits goin for 450+ ! Great for aggro, great for damage. My favourite idol

Commento di 23388

New patch notes for Patch 2.0.10
The bonus to "Swipe" from the "Idol of Brutality" has been reduced from 50 to 10.

Commento di Blencathra

Another thing to bear (sorry) in mind is that not all druids have Mangle.

As a tank, Idol of the Wild is totally useless to me, and Idol of Ursoc, as has been previously stated, isn't as effective at increasing the threat as this one. Hence I can see it staying in my tanking gear for a very long while.

Commento di 54559

Threat for Mangle is Dmg Done x 1.5
Threat for Maul is Dmg Done + 207.

Thus, the Idol of The Wild increases your threat by 52x1.5 = 78 per Mangle.
The Idol of Brutality increases your threat by 50 per Maul.

Assuming you are using Maul every cooldown, you do 2.4 Mauls for every Mangle. In this situation, Brutality is the better trinket, doing 120 threat for every 78 that Wild will produce. This is not even taking into account the extra dmg + threat on Swipe.

You would have to be using Maul only on every 2nd attack for the Idol of the Wild to be superior, and not using Swipe. So in rather low rage situations vs a single target, Wild is slightly better.

Commento di 78213

Agreed. This remains the best tanking idol in BC. (as long as you have the rage to spam Maul, which is often to always in late game instances)

Commento di Sounder

Druid Soloing:

-Be level 70.

-Set your hearth to LHC for repairs/vendoring.

-Zone in the front (if you enter the side entrance Barthilas will run toward the end of the instance, forcing you to pass harder trash to get to him).

-Go bear and kill the first pack of mobs.

-Do *not* stealth. Stealth-seeing mobs can detect you at a greater distance when you're stealthed than when you're visible. It's an oddity of the aggro-range system. Stay in bear gear but do your running in humanoid form so you can get Furor if you aggro something and have to fight.

-After the first pack of mobs it's not necessary to kill anything other than Barthlias. You can safely run between groups, or between groups and the wall. The only complications are as follows:

-Box traps. Assume every clickable box is a trap. Run past it to a safe spot and kill the rats/maggots/etc quickly. Do *not* swipe when there's less than 3 left, it's possible to hit something that had been too far away to aggro.

-Eye of Naxx. If you keep moving you may miss them entirely. If one appears kill it quick. If it lives long enough to spawn two elite gargoyles they'll aggro a group and you'll die.

-Walking patrols. After the first gate there's some solo pats. There's only 2-3 that matter, just wait until you know where they are and move when it's safe.

-After killing Barthilas, zone out the side entrance to your right, reset the instance, and ride back to the front. Once I got in the above groove I was able to start a new run 8 minutes after I'd started the prior one (judging by the time left on Thorns).

I lost count of how many UD Strat runs I made back when I was 60 trying to get the Idol of Brutality and it never, ever dropped. Finally, today, I have it in hand.

Commento di anathor

I farmed for this yesterday, using a slightly different technique than what Sounder describes above.

- Zone in from the front, indeed if you try to enter from the side then Barthilas will run to the Baron to warn him.

- The first time it is not possible to go directly to Barthilas via the shortest wat (on the right side) because you will not have the key from Barthilas yet (Key to the City) so you have to go the whole way around (left side, follow the circle), it's still short but there are 2 gates to pass. At the first one I got a pack of rats and then aggroed a pat. At the second one I had to fight a boss (Unforgiven I think), easy and dropped some blue gloves druid from an old druid set (BoE so can be sold at AH at least). Trash is not an issue anyway, even pulling 2+ groups won't kill you, they are really really easy, just swipe/mangle your way through. Only issue is that the zombies can stack several diseases and it's a bit of a mess after a while, but I was never in danger to die and never had to pop out of bear for healing.

- If you have the key just follow on the right side. You do not have to kill ANY mobs before reaching Barthilas. Just stealth all the way, it works. With the feral talent it's really easy (especially if you are used to do stealth runs), just don't get too close to the mobs that can see through stealth. You don't even have to pull the first pack of skeletons, you can actually just go right through the pack and they won't see you (done multiple times). When you get to the door where you need the key, just go as close as possible to the door, change to caster and open it, I've done it multiple times and never aggroed anything except a couple of rats (easily dispatched with moonfire). On the other side of the locked door go on, a bit more mobs who can see through stealth but still possible to stealth through whatever the distribution/placement of mob is. Be careful with the clickable boxes (supply crates), they open if you run through them or get really close, and sometimes rats or larvas will spawn, can be problematic if you are near big groups - but after the 2nd run I got the hang of it and it never happened any longer.

- When you get to Barthilas no need to clear any trash, just after the door leading to where he is there is a kind of corner on the right hand side, it's nice to fight him there because he has a knockback ability. The first couple of fights I had some problems (although I never had to heal except frenzied regen), afterwards very easy. I usually cast regrowth on myself, opened with moonfire then retreated to corner while casting rejuv and lifebloom - nice little healing cushion. Then basic tank and spank fight. I had 40-50% health at the end (about 15% after frenzied regen for the first fight because I didn't think of putting HoTs on me and I had several diseases with DoT and damage reduction)

- Go out via side exit. Again you can unlock/open the door without aggroing the nearby group if you stand really close to the door. The mobs look very close but at lvl 70 they don't aggro you.

- Reset instance and start again. Also something I was not aware of, after 5 tries you cannot enter any longer before some amount of time (an hour or so?), it's a bit of a pain because of course the idol didn't drop in my 5 first attempts ;-)

It usually took me 4 minutes to stealth through, 2 minutes to fight and exit, 2 minutes to run back. The idol dropped on 8th kill.

Commento di 93560

As a Druid, stealth to the left side past the Cryptlord boss, into the gate that closes and spawns a few rats (which you will use Barkskin/Hurricane on) otherwise you will have to go past 2 groups of Ghouls that see through Stealth. This way you can get to the boss in 2 minutes, kill him and corpse run back for another easy try.

Commento di 147734

did a stealth run on Barthilas last night. fairly simple. just go slow and look out for pats. as long as you go in the "living" entrance, Barthilas is standing right outside the area where Aurius can be found...number 6 on this map.

as stated above, first timers without the key to the city will need to go to the left and pass through 2 gates. the first one locks you in and spawns several rats. just barkskin/hurricane them.

once you reach Barthilas, jump past him while stealthed into the chamber. rebuff/eat, switch to bear, and pull him in. keep your back against the wall to avoid the knockback. i was able to get him down without heals, pots, or regen....AND got lucky with the idol dropping on the first try :)

for a visual guide check out this youtube video. *note that the toon in this video already has the key so stay left in the square for your first try.

Commento di 58296

I did some testing on this and I noticed the following:
- At level 69 it only increased the damage of Swipe by 8, instead of the suggested 10 (so it doesn't scale and has diminishing returns over 60)
- The total damage increase is 8 * 3 or 24 per swipe

Still a very good item. On a boss I'll use the Mangle one. On trash with at least three mobs I think I'm going to use this.

Mangle is very well and good but you can only use it on your main target and it has a cooldown... For AE tanking this thing is clearly better.

Commento di 65340

Actually one can do this boss in one minute.

-Enter Baron side.
-As soon as you open the gate, Barthilas will run away.
-Sprint in catform and charge towards him (make sure you get to him before he goes through the gate).
-You will have to kill some extra skeletons, but should be no problem in bear.
-Reset if you didn't get the idol, and repeat.

Hope this helps!

Commento di Kalzet

Finally an Upgrade for this ... Idol of Perspicacious Attacks

Commento di Kanariya

Changed. Now is +6 Agility, +6 Stamina, has a Red Socket, and increases your dodge rating by 6.

Commento di Seidoxu

What gem could i put in a prismatic socket on this ?

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