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Tire 5 Set for Mages

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Lore Fact:
Tirisfal is a reference to the Order of Tirisfal, from which Medivh and his mother Aegwynn were (and may still be) the guardian of. Hence the simplicity and reminiscence of Medivh's outfit.

Commento di TheDood

This really is an odd set. Frostfire(Tier 3) has more stats in every category than this set except Spirit and a small amount of Crit Strike Rating. It looks like Blizzard toned down the mage set quite a bit, and we're going to have to rely on Sockets to make up for what we need.

There are a number of ways someone could go about socketing the items. Max out on Spell Crit/Hit, or maybe an increased mana pool. The +Dmg is substantially lower than Tier 3, so that would probably be a large factor in the gem decisions.

Edit: I stand corrected. I never thought about the 9piece vs 5piece deal, so this is definitely better

Commento di 27385

in my opinion a set is bad,good ,very good,or exelent depending how you have place your talents points..for example this set i think is more useful in frost mages..frost spell do less damage than fire BUT...with shatter talent or winter's chill talent they more often critically hit the target..so with frost spect you will almost always complete the "4 peices" bonus and play almost always with 70 spell damage more..thats fine with me :)if you play 40 arcane-21 frost ...i would say just choose T4 set...the
-sec of precence of mind and blast and ice block will be fit better to this spec than wait to crit to have the +70 damage bonus..and just an example people just rush to say their opinion about a set...a friend of mine play with a mage and always played as fire spec..now in 70 lev his talents are 50 fire 11 arcane...when he saw T4 set for the first time he told me..lol ...this set sucks!! its make somehow sense...he dont even know ice block or precence of mind exist....dont be hurry said a set sucks or something like that...there are other people playing with a different style of you that they ll love it...all sets"do" something if you know how to "use" them

Commento di Elementx

I would use the T4 set over this no question. I hope Blizz takes a look at this set and ups the set bonuses at least.

I'm an arcane frost mage and my main spells are frost bolts and arcane missles. I can avoid interrupts with missles but not frost bolts so the T4 set is what I'm striving for... this set? I will pick up on piece but the rest... no thanks

Commento di MARTEY

I like the PVP and arena set for mages, looked at the stats and think that the arena and pvp route is the way to go, plus its alot easier getting it compared to this set and faster in my opinion.... Would like to hear what you mages think, PVPoff pieces with arena gear with full epic PVP sockets or teir 4? Im for the arena PVP battlegrounds set....
FYI i did a respec and was Fire, arcane ,and a frost mage just to see what i like the best, and have come back to fire arcane, it just sems to be the most bang for your buck... Good luck Mages...

Commento di radeox

Tier 4 is alot better I think... 2 pieces and you have 100% avoid of interruption while casting Frostbolt or firebolt.

Commento di 29307

To use the first 2/5 set bonus, you have to be in 30yd range - means 110% aggro limit.

To use the second 4/5 set bonus (effectively) you spec fire - means that in order to use the first set bonus you will either
1. not do any damage at all
2. overaggro
Alternatively ditch the first set bonus and dps normally - for which however there are other items far superior to this set.

Commento di 33269

Does anyone know if the 4 set bonus stacks?

Since most mages have a crit more often then every 6 seconds.

Commento di evoker

The tier 5 set has been buffed considerably in the 2.1.0 PTR's.
Check out a screenshot here: http://www.worldofraids.com/news/mageptrt5.jpg

Commento di 5288

It would be interesting to see how this stacks with itself, or with Shiffar's Nexus-Horn (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28418). Or maybe it would just reset the timer on the buff. Either way, the set bonus seems awesome, probably the best one raiding-wise since 8/8 Netherwind.

Commento di 10676

The interrupt resistance offered on the 2-piece Tier 4 bonus benefits fire much more than frost, given the longer average casting times fire mages experience, but the set bonuses on the whole for T4 are much more appealing than these ones. I know few mages that use Arcane Blast frequently enough for the 2 piece bonus (it's ALREADY a mana hog), and the 4-piece T5 bonus is not substantial or long enough to warrant using this set over T5 on bonuses alone. That's not even enough for a full pyro by the time you notice it and it lands. (Heck, the "generic" cloth dungeon 3 set has a larger, longer bonus, even if it doesn't proc as often.) If you're sitting on 4 pieces of T4 that have been gemmed, you may want to wait and gem up a few pieces of T5 before donning it regularly for that reason.

PTR's show the addition of a Blue socket to the robes, and stats that are vastly improved over the previous Tier 5. You now see the following increases *over Tier 4* (should the PTR's prove true):
+7 Stamina
+3 Intellect
+23 Spirit
+46 Damage and Healing
+44 Spell Crit
-13 Spell Hit
Defenitely an improvement over current Tier 5 which is much more of a side-grade from 4. However, the reduction in Hit rating is puzzling given the deeper into raiding we go, the higher level the average mob will be hence the need for more spell hit but oddly it's a reduction that will have to be made up with gems.

You'd think with every other class getting multiple Tier 4/5 sets tailored to different specs, if they're not going to do the same for mages they should at least make the bonuses generic and useful, like 5 or 10% reduced threat. Name a raiding mage of any spec that wouldn't love that!

Commento di 64856

This is one of the best Mage set!

Commento di 63264

Can anyone point me out some nice magely bracers/belts/boots that match this set's appearance? Preferably for a fire mage.

Commento di 5427

Dropped by:

Headpiece - Lady Vashj (SSC)
Gloves - Leotheras the Blind (SSC)
Leggings - Fathom-Lord Karathress (SSC)
Pauldrons - Void Reaver (TK)
Chestpiece - Kael'thas Sunstrider (TK)

Commento di Tunes

The 2 set bonus on this set is under estimated, and the 4 set bonus is great.

Raiding Mages are finding Arcane rotations doing a lot of damage with these set bonuses. I know a lot of people who don't raid often are going "WTF, Arcane being viable as a main nuke?"
Well it's true!
As long as you have a shadow priest, you really shouldn't worry about mana issues even as Arcane spec.

With a high crit chance, 2 / 4 set bonuses, Shadow priest, and a good Spell rotation your DPS will rocket.

Most used spell rotation-
Arcane Blast > Arcane Blast > Arcane Blast > Arcane Missiles > Scorch. And repeat.

The Reason there is a scorch at the end of the spell rotation is to give it time for your arcane blast debuff to go away, you don't want to just be standing there waiting for it to go away.

I hope this helps anyone with the 2 set bonus thinking it's going to waste, because it surely isn't. Good luck!

Commento di Tunes

Just an update on the 2 set bonus, it wont be as valuable once 2.3 comes out because fireball and frostbolt coefficients are going away, meaning fireball and frostbolt will now benefit from 100% of your spell damage instead of just 90% (where it is now).

But there are still ways to make this 2 set bonus worth using, lets take for example the 40/0/21 build ( http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=oi0Vc0fzxIziZZVA0coc0o )

With a spell rotation near this..
Arcane blast > Arcane blast > Arcane blast > Frostbolt > Frostbolt > Frostbolt > Repeate..
You can get some nice damage will saving mana.
(Some may have different spell rotations)

The reason why this spec works is because..
1. mind mastery adds a huge bonus to your overall spell damage
2. Arcane Power (Which comes with 3% crit from the talent before it)
3. Clearcast crit proc
4. The critical strike bonus from both Spell Power (50%) and Ice shards (100% to frost)

Those are the key talents you want for this build.
You should have a good amount of spell damage and crit for this build.

With the nerfs to MSD and Lightning capacitor, and the buffs to Frostbolt and Fireball in 2.3, arcane just wont be doing the same damage as it once had.

But if you think the 2 set bonus is useless after 2.3, you're wrong. :)

Commento di 54166

That may work for full arca mages assuming you have empowered arcane missiles...
Let me point out why I don't like the idea what Tunes mentioned ("for your arcane blast debuff to go away"). It is not a debuf. If you trigger the bonus damage or the gear procced then the worst thing can happen that you have to cast 3 sec spells.

What is better (theoretically) ...?

cast 2 fireballs, 3 sec each and use instance fireblast/instant pyrobalst if you have it?
cast 3 frostbolts, 2.5 sec each (ice lance against bosses... well)?
cast 5 arcane blasts, 1.5 sec each?

As a 40/18/3 little mage I'd use scorch for starter (hopefully I'm with another fire oriented mage so we stack up the 5 scorches fast.
Now I start the Arcane blasts and hit the target minimum 3 times.
At this point the boss has fire debuff and I have arcane buff so I always have to choose if I

have to renew the fire debuff with a 1.5 sec scorch
have to renew the arca buff on me with an 1 sec arcane blast
got clearcasting so I should use fireblast/fireball as fire crits are very valuable... arcane blast is also an option as I got crit bonus on them as well. Instant pyro or trinket can be used as well. Anyway when you have better crit chance use the appropriate spell to trigger this set (or the passive trinket you sensitive for crits)
pop up your 3 minute trinket within the 1st minute (if appropriate) or so so you can use your 3 minute abilities as many times as possible before the enrage of the boss. Watch your aggro and keep distance from the boss
use iceblock to clear debuff or to try to get rid of chasing bosses. You can be healed if the healer is still around.
use invisibility when you are high on threat and not being or about to be dotted.
You run out of mana fast no matter what. You have 3 mana agate gems, use them asap when the 1800-3000 mana can not get wasted. Use mana potion injector, pots, beg for innervate as you like
run around the boss, screaming for help
die from a 20k hit. Please note the rule of thumb:

when the tank dies thats a mistake of the helaer
when the healer dies thats a mistake of the tank
when the DPS dies that is the mistake of the DPS (period)

The best part of having the arcane blast buff on you all the time is when your gear procced you can spam 5 Arcane blast within the 8 sec you have. I'm sorry for the long post but I actually don't think you can do decent DPS with spamming anything (but the trade channel of course). Also when you encounter raid bosses then the theoretical DPS is just imaginary as you most likely have to move and move and move...

And remember:

a dead mage does 0 DPS which is kinda shameful when (s)he still has mana....

Commento di 164017

well, yeah I've found 2xAB and 1x AM a pretty nice rotation, never had any mana issues at Prince tho, and I've still gone with 3xAB....

but now i've got 10,4k unbuffed mana.. (Im geared almost for entire BT/MHyjal) and ofc I pop my mana gems ASAP when they will fill me up to 95-98% mana (just to be sure not to waste a singel point). Just keep a few mana pots ready incase you're unlucky with clearcasts.

And anyways, I tried the fire/icy veins specc, and it's using about as much % mana as the arcane mage on arc rotation does, or atleast it did for me..
Picked me down about 100-200 dps aswell..

Commento di 59222

For clarification, this is the Mage Tier 5 Raid Set.

Tokens for this set are available from the following bosses:
Chest - Kael'thas Sunstrider (Tempest Keep)
Gloves - Leotheras the Blind (Serpentshrine Cavern)
Helm - Lady Vashj (Serpentshrine Cavern)
Leggings - Fathom Lord Karathress (Serpentshrine Cavern)
Shoulders - Void Reaver (Tempest Keep)

And their respective tokens are;
Vanquished Champion (Rogue, Shaman, Paladin)
Vanquished Defender (Warrior, Priest, Druid)
Vanquished Hero (Warlock, Mage, Hunter)

There are 5 items in this item set.

Commento di 168818

Here is the Stat comparison to the Tier 4 Aldor Regalia set:
+86 Armor
+12 Stamina
+3 Intellect
+23 Spirit
+44 Dmg/Healing
+43 Spell Crit Rating
-15 Spell Hit Rating
-20 Spell Penetration (Spell Penetration not present on Tier 5 Tirisfal Regalia)
-1 Red Socket
+3 Yellow Socket
-1 Blue Socket

The following are the Set Bonus Changes:
Tier 5 2 Piece Bonus: "Increases the damage and mana cost of Arcane Blast by 20%."
Tier 5 4 Piece Bonus: "Your spell critical strikes grant you up to 70 spell damage for 6 sec."

Tier 4 2 Piece Bonus: "Gives you a 100% chance to avoid interruption caused by damage while casting Fireball or Frostbolt."
Tier 4 4 Piece Bonus: "Reduces the cooldown on Presence of Mind by 24 sec, on Blast Wave by 4 sec, and on Ice Block by 40 sec."

Commento di Elektron

In patch 3.0.2 the 2-set bonus was nerfed:

Only 5% more dmg to Arcane Blast.

Thus badge items are much more useful now, even for arcane mages.

Seems Blizzard really hates the Arcane Blast spell. It is practically useless in 3.0.2.

Commento di 247567

Probably the best looking Burning Crusade set, though a lot of people (at least that I know) skipped right over it, going badge gear and T4, then right to T6. Good to see magi getting the Frostfire look back in Lich King.

Commento di Ametrine

It's a shame that WLK's launch removed all possibility of getting Atiesh - getting this set along with it would've made for an awesome Medivh costume...

Commento di 520042

This is the set used by Sunreavers Battle-Mages

This is the one used by Silver Covenant ones

Commento di Hadrian77x7

As of November 23rd, 2010 (Day of The Shattering) this is still the best looking set for Mages.

Commento di ZanathKariashi

Head, shoulders, chest, gloves from t5
Pants, boots, belt, bracers from t6.

Viable as a 70 capped Arcane raiding spec? (Not to mention a HELL of a lot cooler looking then full t6)

+5% damage/mana to AB (main nuke)
+SP on crit
+2 sec to duration of evo (65% mana regen instead of regular)
+5% damage to Arcane Missles (preferred stack breaker)

* also uses the Mage trinket from SSC for extra SP when using Mana gem

Hit capping is possible (though I'd really love if blizz would either re-itemize all sets properly or allow reforging for anything 60+), but i dislike the useless spirit that is all over it.

Commento di 870302

I know what im gonna Transmogrify into....

Commento di LukeStrife

Could someone recommend a somewhat matching staff please? Was thinking perhaps Bastone da Battaglia del Gladiatore Brutale but if anybody has any better ideas, please post. :)

No lightsabers please.

Commento di 373521

As much of a pain in the butt it is to obtain all the matching pieces for this set, it's still worth it. Few people on my server have this one and when you see someone with it, you know just how much farming had to be done to get it. Compliments are abundant when walking into a raid with 24 other people looking like a multicolored batch of circus freaks, while you stroll in looking classy. Much better than the toilet bowl shoulders priests got in Tier 11.

Commento di santipants

My ex kept her whole set in the bank, so I was pretty stoked when transmog came and I was leveling her mage. Looking pretty sweet. I keep collecting other transmog sets for her but going back to this one every time.

All it needs is a better cape than the blood knight cloak I'm using. Doesn't...quite...feel perfect to me.

Commento di ArrynHellfire

If you're looking for a cloak to match this set, Mantello delle Lame Rotanti might be what you're looking for.
It matches the darkbrown in the set.

A quick link for the set:
http://www.wowhead.com/compare?items=30206:34810:30205:30196:30210:30037:30038&l=85

Commento di cameronfrye

New to wowhead, so I do not yet know how to reply in thread.This was meant to answer the matching staff question...
http://www.wowhead.com/item=15275#
After all the BC raid runs, thought something simple from the AH would do. Same logic applied to back piece...
Mantello Imperiale

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