State of Guardian Druid in Dragonflight 10.0.5 - Feedback, Issues, and Wishlist

Live Pubblicato 15/02/2023 alle 12:12 da Pumps

PumpsHonestlyDreamgrove discordMythic Dungeon InternationalTwitchThoughts on Guardian Druid in Dragonflight 10.0.5Unghie e DentiDopo il FuocobradoRazzia6 whole years agoThe Bear Necessities

Magic damage taken

Initial damage taken on pulls

A unique niche/value in raid

Too many weak talents in both trees

Vello di FerroRaggio Lunare1. Magic Damage TakenRifletti IncantesimoVello di Ferroactive2. Initial Damage TakenVello di FerroFuoco LunareProgetto dell'ArchitettoVolontà dell'Ordine NaturaleBarile d'EsplosivoCarica Selvaggia3. Unique Niche Chiamata a RaccoltaenoughRuggito ImpetuosoVello di FerroScudo Saldo8-10Vello di FerroDopo il FuocobradomoresomethingPresa di MalacarneBenedizione della Protezione MagicaVarco DemoniacoChiamata a Raccoltaactively4. Weak Talent Points

Rinnovo Istantaneo vs Vittoria Imminente - 25s CD that resets on kill vs 1.5min cd.

Craniata vs Baseline Interrupt.

Forma di Lunagufo? vs Rifletti Incantesimo - There is nothing remotely close in our tree to how strong spell reflect currently is. But we can turn into a chicken.

Ruggito Impetuoso vs Chiamata a Raccolta - Generally in a raid with shamans/druids/evokers there is excessive mobility tools. You can never have too many rallys and it is a significantly stronger cooldown.

Urto Vigoroso vs Dardo della Tempesta - A single target CC, which we are severely lacking for m+ as Urto Vigoroso shares a choice node with our only AoE CC (Ruggito Inabilitante). The return of Bear Hug (A single target stun with a damage effect) or an AoE stun would be great CC utility.

Cuore Selvaggio vs Avatar - A cooldown better than capstones in our spec tree. Avatar is 20% damage on a 1.5min CD whilst Cuore Selvaggio is 30% Fuoco Lunare and auto attack damage only on a 5 minute cooldown. The disparity in strength is absurd.

Fuoco Solare vs Rombo di Tuono - Massive AoE damage nuke. We have nothing remotely close to this but we can shift out of bear form (potentially die), to cast a DoT that does very little damage if we want to. 2 talent points if you want that DoT to hit multiple targets.

Insegnamenti di Lycara vs Specializzazione: Combattimento con Arma a Una Mano - 5% Damage and leech for a single point vs one of the only 3 point talents left in the game.

? vs Riverbero Sismico - This was a strong Shadowlands legendary that is now a talent in the warrior base class tree. Hard to even think of a comparison as none of our legendaries made it into the tree but in similar talent positions in our tree we have Rinvigorimento Migliorato, Inseguimento Prolungato, Furia Primordiale and Ciclone.

7 timesvastly Rinvigorimento MiglioratoVello di FerroFuria PrimordialeDescending the Spec Tree

Sogno di Cenarius/Frenesia del Sangue/Spine di Ferro/Anima della Foresta would be some good choices.
The goal here would be to remove bloat from the bottom/middle sections of the tree and spread out valuable choice more effectively.

Fronte del Branco is still incredibly weak and should never be taken, 5% speed and the small radius/duration increase just are not worth the point in almost any scenario currently. This could be changed to a different mobility spell entirely like Bestia Distorcente or more recently Animorfosi.

Likewise Resistenza di Ursoc is completely negligible realistically, most of the time we have a ton of rage and the 2 seconds of Pelledura/Vello di Ferro just aren't appealing enough. More ≠ better with a lot of these similar talents that give more Vello di Ferro, 1-2 stacks is more than enough for most content.

Istinto di Sopravvivenza Migliorato would be really nice to be baseline again and the talent could be changed to some sort of cooldown reduction for SI.

Ferite Infette with the addition of Razzia has become slightly more useful but having to spend a talent point on this feels bad in general and this is something that could easily just be baseline.

Similarly with improved Dilaniamento and Risolutezza Innata. These were already baseline perks for us that got removed and made into talents, none of these deserve to be talents.

Rami is a rather mediocre talent, not really adding any depth to play but often just picked because it adds a small amount of damage which is better than nothing.

Arruffamento Pelliccia definitely needs to be off the GCD again.

Sogno di Cenarius/Frenesia del Sangue/Spine di Ferro/Polverizzazione/Furia di Ursoc/Circolo della Vita e della Morte/Favorito di Elune any of these would be incredibly nice to have easier access to.

Recent buffs to Pelliccia Rinforzata and Manto a Strati have made them ever so slightly better but still not good enough to pick up in any build outside of a Spine di Ferro meme build. Again, more Vello di Ferro does not equal better. Having RNG resets on Rigenerazione Furiosa is often useless and the armor/damage reduction gained from these talents is so insignificant you would not even know if you have them talented or not if you didn't look, even after the buffs.

Guardiano di Elune needs a rework completely, it is an extremely outdated talent that hasn't been used since we had our old active mitigation spell (Savage Defense). Competing on a choice node with Dopo il Fuocobrado makes it even worse.

Merging some of these weak Vello di Ferro talents such as Pelliccia Rinforzata, Manto a Strati, Guardiano di Elune, Resistenza di Ursoc and Spine di Ferro could be a simple solution, as on their own they are weak but together they would have much more value.

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Guardiano Galattico being gated behind 2 point Luce Lunare Scintillante and positioned so far right in the tree when it is absolutely integral for rage generation and damage makes it very difficult to grab anything on the left side of the tree without sacrificing massively. Swapping the positions of Luce Lunare Scintillante and Fuoco Lunare Gemello, making Luce Lunare Scintillante an opt in choice node for more damage reduction would be a great start at increasing flexibility within the tree.

Sogno di Cenarius is a fantastic talent, just not the current version we have. The 20 second ICD (Internal Cooldown) combined with the chance to proc based off your Crit chance on only non periodic damage makes it too rare for what it does. I think one of either the crit, non periodic or ICD need to be changed. Also a great QoL to that would be being able to stack up to 2 so you don't feel forced to use the first charge on potentially nothing.

Convocazione degli Spiriti just isn't good for bear. Most of the power came from Niya mastery which no longer exists. It's value was largely raid healing/burst CD while not actively tanking but current version doesn't do anywhere near enough damage/healing to justify being called a cooldown.
This is in part due to the massive aura buff (Druido (Guardiano Ferino)) that Guardian has in Dragonflight where none of the spells outside of bear form are affected. This in turn has completely killed off the playstyle of Weaving, which involved swapping into either Forma Felina or Forma di Lunagufo to deal more damage than you normally would in bear. This was a playstyle that many people, myself included, enjoyed thoroughly. Being able to do damage in bear is absolutely a plus in Dragonflight but I believe weaving should have it's place and benefits.

Razzia is a cool new talent but I don't think it should be a loss on single target. The cost of spending a very late and valuable talent point should be enough to make it at least net neutral single target, ideally even an increase. Potentially adding some sqrt type change, this would make it much more viable in raids. Another potential suggestion would be making it a choice node with Zampata as it replaces it.

Raggio Lunare has the potential to become some real CC utility if the damage is to remain lacking. If it added the Fascio Solare effect while mobs were inside, similar to DH Sigillo del Silenzio. Currently the damage it deals is extremely under-tuned, especially for a capstone, it does roughly the same damage as a single unbuffed Zampata on a 1 minute cooldown.

Spine di Ferro is an absolutely cursed talent. It is currently in the highest single target damage Guardian build and you purely generate rage and spam Vello di Ferro as much as possible for damage. So much so that people are having to bind Vello di Ferro to mouse wheel up and down to save their poor hands. The concept of this talent is one that I think is good (adding a damage aspect to Vello di Ferro) but the implementation is horrible. Lower the damage of this, remove the split but add sqrt on 5 or so targets, making it a bit better on AoE and far less on single target. Or just delete it. Spamming Vello di Ferro for the highest damage possible is just bad gameplay.

Wishlist

Weaving - This was a fun playstyle that was at it's peak in Shadowlands but Guardian has a long history of Catweaving for higher damage and Dragonflight has ignored an extremely thematic aspect of Druid. This could easily become a fun and unique niche if reworked well.

Auto Swipe - Zampata/Dilaniamento feel like they are in a great place and both feel good to press, Spazzata is the opposite. We try to avoid that ability like the plague currently and press it as infrequently as possible. I think having a talent similar to Devastatore where Spazzata becomes a passive that procs from auto attacks or something similar would be an awesome addition and solve that problem. Fuoco Lunare supplements fantastically as a rotational filler spell so that we never have empty gcds.

Berserks - I've always been a critic of Berserk being split into 3 points and with the change to Berserk: Aggressività Libera it has only become worse. I really think these need to be merged at some point or at the very least not gate off so much of the tree. Berserk: Persistenza being the worst offender by far as not only is it generally the weakest of the 3, it also gates off Guardiano Galattico, even though they have no relation at all to each other.
The NoCarn playstyle (Skipping as many Berserk talents as possible and moving that power elsewhere in the tree) is rising in popularity as Incarnazione: Guardiano di Ursoc gets consistently worse.
Incarnazione: Guardiano di Ursoc being central in the tree instead of Guardiano Galattico/Fuoco Lunare Gemello when the the pathing down the center is all DoT/Arcane damage based doesn't really make sense. The massive divide between the Physical (Left) and Arcane (Right) side of our tree causes massive inflexibility because trying to take something on the opposing side like Pulverize for example means you have to completely change your entire build for a small niche talent. Pathing improvements here would go a long way.

Maestria: Guardiano della Natura Change - Our mastery just doesn't really do anything. It has received countless nerfs in the past and is now a shell of it's former self. It isn't impactful, you won't notice the difference between 5000 mastery and 0. Easy solution would be to buff how much health it gives us again, the fun solution would be to revamp it into something more interesting.

Rigenerazione Furiosa off GCD - This has to be one of the most requested changes I've consistently heard echoed throughout the bear community. Rigenerazione Furiosa is such a mediocre self heal, being on the GCD is far too punishing for no reason.

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