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Commento di 1589

You can only gain 2999 in Neutral with the Syndicate if you killed Ravenholt guards. They each give 1 Syndicate rep, the elite gives 5.

You can never get freindly with Syndicate.

If you pickpocked Syndicate you can get the items needed for the turn ins. You can turn them in for Ravenholt rep without losing Syndicate rep. So if you just stay above Neutral with Ravenholt you can kill the them and still do the turn in to slowly raise both rep.

This will take an amazing amount of time, about 10k ravenholt guards will need to be killed to get to neutral.

Blizzard did annouce that they will be doing something with ravenholt at some time in the future.

You can only do the hand in quest if your a rogue.

Commento di Arathanar

All Syndicate NPCs do have "the Syndicate" where the Faction is displayed on their tooltip, so it must exist.

Commento di DrCheis

He's referring to the faction in the tooltip, not the guild tag. A Ratchet flight master would appear like this for example.

Bragok
Flight Master
Level 65 (Elite)
Ratchet
PVP

The faction DOES still exist. The reason you don't see it on your faction sheet is because you haven't done any of the two things that can raise or lower your Syndicate reputation (rogue quest and killing Ravenholdt guards).

Commento di DrCheis

Currently wowhead doesn't indicate whether or not an NPC is in the Syndicate faction, so a search for the faction will turn up zero results. wowhead now lists these NPCs. Because many NPCs that serve Syndicate functions aren't actually considered to be in the Syndicate faction, many players have become flustered while trying to find out if there's any point to getting reputation with them.

There are two rare NPCs that I've encountered so far that have Syndicate as their faction. They are Gravis Slipknot and Jimmy the Bleeder.

Commento di 55952

Background: The Syndicate is a group of former Alterac nobles who seek to regain power in Alterac and Hillsbrad. Though they are unaware of it, the Syndicate are acting as agents of the Burning Legion. The Legion controls the Syndicate through the Argus Wake, a division of the Legion operating in the Alterac Mountains. The Legion is using them to attempt to establish a base of power in Azeroth.

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Commento di 100246

As of Patch 2.3 you seem to be able to get Ravenholdt rep by killing Syndicate members, such as the humans in Stromgarde. So this might be a way to rescue that rep if you have lost it by killing Ravenholdt members.

Commento di 84425

I bet you if levels were regardless, VanCleef and Rhank'Zor could kick Falconcrest and Otto's asses 3 realms over. Long Live VanCleef!

Commento di 32877

If anyone knows why this faction has appeared in my horde's reputation list, I'd like to know why. I have 6 rep with ravenholdt and did not do any quests for them, yet I have syndicate rep. furthermore I am a pally. So at least for horde, it would appear you can get this faction to appear without doing the junkbox quests, making some of the comments semi incorrect.

EDIT: you now lose rep from killing syndicate members apparently. this must have changed in 2.3

Commento di Zeldendorf

These mobs are extremely annoying and there faction is a bunch of washed up cowards....they will run at like 15% life and will surely aggro everything in there little fort.......

Commento di 146819

What's the point of this faction having a Reputation? They are always going to be KOS NPCs (unless you're crazy enough to try to get friendly with them), and there's NOTHING to gain from being Neutral or higher with them (except maybe them not killing you, but by the time you can actually be Neutral with them there really isn't any reason to go near them except for farming).

Commento di 164081

I started losing reputation with the Syndicate by a quest in the Hillsbrad Foothills. The quest can be attained in Tarren MIlls and is about killing Syndicate rogues and Syndicate Watchmen. Incidentally, I also play a Blood Elf Paladin. I lose 5 rep for every Syndicate member I kill.

Commento di Icetemplar

It should be noted that most NPC's realted with this faction save for, http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=2423 , wear a orange face mask, the color's of the former nation of Alterac.

http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Alterac.jpg

Commento di 37725

why bother creating a faction (which tracks your progress) in which you cannot get to exalted with?

Commento di 260854

Has anyone really tried to become friendly with the synd? everything that is on wowhead or anyother site is just a reference to players game exp. so any quests or perks to being friendly with this faction could be actually hidden from gener population due to the fact that it is so hard to build rep......just a thought.

Commento di 265030

I DONT CARE how many ravenholts i'll have to kill, im joining syndicate!

Commento di 242565

i just cant understan one thing: why Syndicate counts as a faction while the Defias Brotherhood doesnt. I mean, defias a playing not less role in history than the Syndicate, but why it doesnt count as a faction? i know, it isnt the correct place to ask thet, but still... could anyone tell the reason?

Commento di RedBlaze

Anyone know the largest and closest concentration of these NPCs?

Commento di dabias

http://www.wowhead.com/?maps=36:479817584667

poplular place for AoE grinding too

Commento di Sharlah

The Syndicate , former members of the Kingdom of Alterac , traitors to the Alliance. These tough fellows hold a large portion of Alterac and Arathi, not particularly happy with anyone other than themselves. The initiation ritual? You must be kidding me - No?
Becoming a member of the Syndicate means you have to be and act like them - Perform betrayel like Alterac has done in the past to prove your worth, and the Ravenholdt rogues are the perfect target! What are you waiting for?

Gaining Syndicate reputation has become significantly easier since 3.0.8
All members associated with Ravenholdt now yield 5 points of reputation each, exception made for Myrokos Silentform, whom grants 25. (Non-human)

If you kill all members inside, it will yield 140 reputation non-human(154 for humans).
The respawn time on Ravenholdt Guards is ~6.20 minutes.

Hated - Hostile (36000-32000 : 140) = 29 (28.57) runs. (25.97 for humans)
Hostile - Unfriendly (3000 : 140) = 22 (21.42) runs. (19.48 for humans)
Unfriendly - Neutral (3000: 140) = 22 (21.42) runs. (19.48 for humans)

Hated - Neutral will thus take you 71 (70.41) runs or 65 (64.92) runs as human.

Grinding your way up to Neutral will take your Ravenholdt reputation down to 0/36000 Hated and won't be able to get The Insane and Neutral with the Syndicate at the same time.

Now you've finally, after several days of sneaking and ambushing assassins, reached a state where you are on amicable terms with the fellows of Alterac. Not that they really like you though.. or ever will. (Yes, one reputation point that they will never give to you) What are benefits, you ask yourself, looking down on the guard's corpse drenched in his own pool of blood. Not only have you gained the "I shall not stab you right -now-" status among the Syndicate, you also have access to not only Strahnbrad, the Uplands, Durnholde keep - You have access to Stromgarde, too! Yes, let that thought seep into your mind for a minute. Just make sure you're out of here before the guards find out what you've been doing for that past seven days..

(P.S. If people liked what I did with this, I will continue to make more on other subjects!)

Commento di 185040

They should do something similar with the Bloodsail Buccaneers.
I actually looked them up to see if there was something like that.
That should make it so you can get friendly... then get a ninja outfit.. and a title, Something!

Commento di Locantos

As I know (also confirmed) 0/3000 is the maximum reputation level at the Syndicate. The normal NPCs will not really speak to you, but there are these 4 named NPCs with a syndicate tag.
Could someone test with neutral reputation, if they do speak to you.
Perhaps the two rare NPCs have something to say.

Gravis Slipknot 36 Rare Alterac Mountains ca. 60,44
Henchman Valik 30 Alterac Mountains ca. 56,70
Jimmy the Bleeder 23 Rare Alterac Mountains ca. 48,84 or 57,67
Lord Falconcrest <Syndicate Leader> 40 Arathi Highlands ca. 26,65

Thanks in advance for testing it.

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There was a repsonse of a player. He tried to speak with Lord Falconcrest. There was a speech balloon, but when clicking it the lord was only targeted. Perhaps there was a quest planned like as with the bloodsails, but not really started.

Perhaps the other three give a response.

Commento di HelloKitty

Queston - is it possible to be Exalted with ravenholdt and 2999/3k syndicate at the same time?

I'm a rogue. I can be neutral with both at same time (Kill ravenholdt members, then hand them the emblems i pickpocketed from syndicate members), but then the heavy junkboxes quest removes 75 syndicate rep per turn-in, and there's no way to recoup 75 syndicate rep without tanking more than 75 ravenholdt rep. Any other methods or am I $%^& out of luck?

Commento di TheManWithNoName

I can confirm a few little things, well...most of you already know so there might not be that much point in writing this but this is what I have to say anyway. I just became neutral with the Syndicate faction...I know there is no benefits or anything, I just did it for some reason. lol. Anyway, I was personally a bit dissapointed, I knew nobody in the "faction" would talk or say anything to me but what I was dissapointed about was that the "important" people in the Syndicate will always be hostile...I was hoping to stand beside the leaders and get a screenshot or something but they are always hostile...I personally don't recommend grinding rep with them unless you are crazy like me and insist on being one of the few that did. =p

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-reputation.xml?r=Steamwheedle+Cartel&cn=Denarus

Commento di 528771

what happened to them in Cataclysm, i can't find them anywhere in hillsbrad or ..anywhere D:
is the "Formula: Enchant Cloak - Lesser Agility" still available?

Commento di ShinChuck

As of the Shattering, they're still around. Look in the ruins of Alterac as well as Stromgarde Keep.

It seems as if you can only make it to 0/3000 Neutral with them anymore. I grinded my rep with them up to Neutral, and then Ravenholdt immediately stopping giving me Syndicate rep. Absolutely no way to even have any buffer anymore.

Commento di ArcTyrael

The best place to grind Ravenholdt rep and kill Syndicate members is Stromgarde keep.

Commento di HamuulRunetotem2

Officially As of patch 4.3.4, There is still no point of gaining rep with the Syndicate, and you cannot go about 2999/3000 Neutral. and rogues especially do not want to try to get Syndicate rep because it will deprive them of Ravenholdt rep and
essentially the legendary daggers Zanne del Progenitore.

Commento di Naleag

As of 10/10/2013 it appears the highest your reputation can go is 0/3000 neutral. As has been stated killing the npc's is tedious as they're on a 6.5 minute timer, and there are less than 30 total mobs so you're going to get less than 200 rep per 7 minutes if you're doing it on time every time.

I did this in one session, and it took about 8 hours from start to finish. It'll take a little longer if you have done any syndicate mob killing, or have done any quest that might damage your standing. Tedium is your biggest enemy so what I suggest is to either just talk with your friends on some voice chat, or do what I did, and play in windowed for this, and load up a flash game in the other, and every 7-10 minutes tab over, and kill everything, and then go back to what you're doing.

I did it just to do something unique, and for the really vague hope that someday they might add more to the faction. It's pretty neat to be able to chill with the npcs, although none of the named npc's, or leaders are able to be interacted with, and in fact are hostile. The rares are neutral though.

Link to my armory with proof of the deed.

Commento di regma

Looked on the NPCs tab and seen that "cow" was listed.
So wait, everytime I killed a cow I lose rep? Weird.

Commento di ns88

As of january 2016, this faction is still useless. Doubt anything will ever become of it.

Commento di VenemaThol

I'm trying to figure out something. But thats really hard for my little brain. I'm wondering if it's mathematically possible to be Neutral with Syndicate. While maintaining your Ravenholdt rep. And here's my idea;

I'm currently Exalted with Ravenholdt. I completed my Insane. Now i'm thinking (but i don't want to do a mistake). Let's say i kill Ravenholdt guys from Exalted Back to Neutral and stop there. Not to be Unfriendly with them and being unable to turn in the Lockboxes anymore.

The idea is to play with Ravenholdt starting from Exalted, lowering it up to maximum 0/3000 Neutral, and never going below that, while trying to slowly raise Syndicate.

Killing a Ravenholdt guy.. let's say i kill only Myrokos Silente Since he give 25 rep Syndicate and lose you 125 rep Ravenholdt. 10 kills of him would be 250 rep / - 1250 rep. Killing 100 of him would be 2500 rep / -12,500 rep. (i'm still exalted). From 21,000 Rep Exalted to Neutral 0 / 3000 you are allowed to lose 42,000 Rep. @21,000+12,000+6,000+3,000.

So killing him 200 times would gain me 5000 Syndicate Rep and Lose me 25,000 Ravenholdt rep. (putting me Honored 9/12K). (i can still kill more). *18,000 more rep allowed to lose from 9K Honored to 0/3000 Neutral.
let's kill another 100 more! Bring me to 2,500 / 6000 Friendly with Ravenholdt. While i now have gained 7,500 Syndicate rep / 36,000 Hated ( currently 0 / 36,000 Hated). (i could still lose more. but let's just stop there okay.). Since 300 kills and 2,5k friendly is a good and easy number. (100 extra kill would go under neutal and i don't feel like counting the exact number of possible kill to stay neutral ravenholdt).

Now i'm 7,500 / 36,000 Hated Syndicate and 2,500 / 6000 Friendly Ravenholdt.
FROM THIS POINT !. Here is what i'm not sure. Let's say you only worked your Ravenholdt's strong lockboxes turn in durring Darkmoon fair for the +10% rep bonus. and Maybe even have another +10% from something i don't know... (I'll try and use only a 10% in this thread). if 20% is somehow easily possible then that would just be even better. or let's say you are at the WoW's anniversary. you get 13% rep bonus. + Hallow's end 10% + darkmoon fair another 10%...). (I'm trying hard to find a method lol).

The Turn is for Lockboxes = +25 rep Ravenholdt and -25 Rep Syndicates. (which is fair).
With 10% rep you instead get +27.2 Rep Ravenholdt and still -25 Rep Syndicates.
If you had 20% Rep bonus. You would get 30 Raven Rep while losing only 25.
Let's include WoW's anniversary rep token and say it now gives 15% since it apparently increase by +1% every year and i'm in 2018 now.
We are now talking about +35% bonus rep. Giving you 33,75 Rep while losing 25 Synd Rep. (starts to be interresting no?).

Now if you gathered 100 Lockboxes. Turn them in, (I'll use the maximum 35% rep for it), even if that's borderline to impossible. Turn 100 Lockboxes to the Ravenholdt, Gain 3,375 Rep Ravenholdt and lose 2,500 Syndicate Rep.

I was at 7,500 /36,000 Syndicate and 2,500 / 6,000 Friendly Ravenholdt.
Lose 2,500 Synd Rep, (Down to 5,000 / 36k). and Gain 3,375 Raven, Up to 5,875/6,000 Friendly Raven.

New Numbers = 5/36k Synd. & 5,875/6K Raven.

This is where i get $%^&'ed up in my head. is that possible? lol. Never go below Neutral with Raven. You are not allowed.

I am now eligible to lose another 5,875+3,000 Rep with Raven ( 8,875Rep) before 0/3000 Neutral.
Let's lose it for the science and see where it brings us!.
8,875 / 125 rep lost / a kill of the ravenholdt boss guy = 71 more kills to be exactly 0/3000 Neutral.
71 x 25 = 1,775 rep more for Synd.

You are now with 6,775/36K Hated Synd. and 0/3k Neutral Raven.
Can you go any further? Hummm...
Answer starts to be closer to a No than a Yes.

This is where things gets interresting. Not only for this rep. but for any similar rep that would be in the game. For Completionist peoples.

Let's turn in a few more boxes, see where it leads us!. Again for the science. 6,775 Synd Rep / losing 25 per turn in = 271 more possible turn in before reaching again 0/36,000 Hated with them.
At 35% bonus rep, giving you with Raven; 33,75rep x 271 turn ins = 9146,25 Rep.
Bringing you back to 0/36000 Hated Synd and 146.25 / 6000 Rep Honored with Raven.

Conclusion, no. You are just lowering your rep with both.
Unless something i didn't consider, i just wasted 2 hours of mathemathic trying to find a way to make it possible!.

Exalted Steamwheedle + Bloodsail is a thing. This one dosen't seem like one.

Let's just quickly consider one more thing. if you did it the opposite way. and was 2,999/3000 Neutral Synd and 0/36000 Hated Raven. No, Nevermind. you are not allowed to be hated by the Raven. and that would just bring you to be hated by both.

So 5/36K Hated Synd and 5,875/6k Friendly Raven seems the best you could do. (After lowering Raven from Max Exalted to this).

I'm gonna say not possible as of 2018. Which i really find a shame, since Battle for Azeroth is coming, and Azeroth is gonna change.

At least! it's being years i wanted to do this math to see if there were a way arround, my conclusion is that there is none. Good Luck in WoW Friends!.

Commento di Ogrot

Has anyone looked at this faction lately? Both Gelkis Clan Centaur and Magram Clan Centaur were re-added to the game in the BfA pre-patch, with an easy path to Exalted status. This leaves Syndicate as the lone in-game faction that is impossible to max out.

Commento di Tykaine

I am neutral with the Syndicate faction, 0/3000 is the highest you can go, not 2999/3000 as some have stated.

I did the grind by killing many Ravenholdt NPCs back in the later days of WoTLK, when progression was finished and I was bored with far too much time on my hands. You know, the *waiting for next expansion* phase.

I couldn't find any information about it online at the time, and to this day there is still very little information out there.

My thinking, or hope rather, was that there might be some sort of hidden interaction upon reaching neutral. I wasn't expecting a secret quest or anything, but perhaps some sort of unknown dialogue with a Syndicate NPC. "You're new here? Watch your back..." something like that!

Sure enough, all Syndicate flagged NPCs became friendly and will not attack. This does include the level 120 ones in BFA's updated Arathi Highlands, which locks me out of a couple of world quests.

I have tried to interact with every Syndicate NPC out in the world - named, unnamed and rares - alas unfortunately nobody has had anything to say to me.

It's a fun novelty being on good terms with this normally violent and anarchic organization of thugs, but in hindsight I probably should have got exalted with Ravenholdt, which I am now hated with. Both factions are just as useless, but at least Ravenholdt always counts as +1 for Exalted reputation achievements.

Commento di Rudy199

''The Syndicate was a pack of murdering cowards''
''The Syndicate was civilization's last hope''

Commento di Huckleberri

Sadly none of these Syndicate npc/mobs exist in the game any more so now pickpocketing heavy junk boxes and handing them in to Winstone Wolfe in Ravenholdt keep is the ONLY way to gain Ravenholdt reputation.
If any one knows another way to gain this reputation up to 11999/12000 Honoured I'd be very happy to hear about it.

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Un'organizzazione criminale gestita principalmente da Umani che opera principalmente tra le Montagne d'Alterac e le Alture di Colletorto.

Grado	Nome	Min	Quantità
1	Odiato	0	36000
2	Ostile	36000	3000
3	Avverso	39000	3000
4	Neutrale	42000	3000
5	Amichevole	45000	6000
6	Onorato	51000	12000
7	Riverito	63000	21000
8	Osannato	84000

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