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Commento di 15581

Hydross the Unstable is the first boss in Serpentshrine Cavern, a 25 man raid instance in Coilfang Reservoir. He was first downed by Nihilum (Horde Guild on Magtheridon - EU).

Commento di Arador

- Living root of the Wildheart
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30664

Commento di Artica

Hydross can also be tanked at 250% in the nature phase with 1 tank. This basically entails patchwerk-style healing on the nature resist MT. There is a small probability an unresisted hit will land and one shot the tank if the tank has less than 19 or 20k HP. I wouldn't suggest trying this unless the tank has enough defense to prevent critical hits while having 365 NR buffed.

This allows for me leeway on the enrage timer and the ability to put more DPS on Hydross without needing the additional tanks in resist gear.

Commento di 12770

Here's a nice tip to kill Hydross:

Switch him to from frost phase to nature face just when the 100% mark hits, because the Water Tomb ability is way too dangerous, if you have a good nature resist geared tank, with 365 Nature Res and high stamina, and maximized out crit immune --> 5.6% crit immune decrease, you should nuke the crap outta Hydross until he's just about to hit the 500% mark, then switch him, because the Vile Sludge hardly damages, meaning, when he hits the 250% mark, tell your healers to spam heal you. Really works great

Commento di Xaocka

Also drops Plans: Red Belt of Battle (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30322)

Commento di 44375

Dropped "Band of Vile Aggression" last night for Section Eight of Bonechewer:

+37 Stam, +25 Resil., +50 Atk. Pwr.

Aparently the melee version of the new PvPish rings dropping in SSC.

Commento di 2216

- The best way for main tank to start the fight. -
Have your tank some lesser invisibility potion(http://www.wowhead.com/?item=3823).
Before engage it, you can pull some poison elemants to gather rage.
When you are ready, drink the potion and move in, stand in front of it, then click off the invisibility buff.

you will have full rage to build threat and no longer suddenly transfer over the line.

Commento di Compiler

Kill video: http://stage6.divx.com/user/ShadowsAndDust/video/1465500/Shadows-and-Dust---Hydros-the-unstable
(Tank's prospective)

Commento di Silverwolf

So Frost mages are screwed for half of the fight and has to resort to Fire and Arcane spells...

Commento di Immortares

In order to kill Hydross your Main Tanks need decent resistance gear. If you can't get the reagents with your Guild, you need around 4300g to get it (without enchants). You need to find the following crafters:

Blacksmith 375:

Exalted with The Violet Eye
Exalted with Cenarian Expedition
With 6 Primal Nethers

Jewelcrafter 375:

Honored with The Violet Eye
Revered with Lower City
Revered with Scryer
Exalted with Cenerian Expedition

Frost Resistance Gear:

VE BS: Iceguard Breastplate (chest) 60
VE BS: Iceguard Leggings (legs) 60
VE BS: Iceguard Helm (head) 50
VE JC: The Frozen Eye (finger) 35
LC JC: Pendant of Thawing (neck) 30
VE: Inscription of Endurance (shoulder enchant) 7
KoT: Glyph of Frost Warding (head enchant) 20
Buffs: 70 Frost Resistance
Total: 332 Frost Resistance

Reagents:

48 Khorium Ore
4 Eternium Ore
6 Fel Iron Ore
4 Khorium Ore
3 Primal Nether
46 Primal Water
48 Primal Fire
5 Primal Earth
20 Adamantite Powder
Average Value (excluding the 3 Primal Nethers): 2400g

Nature Resistance Gear:

Reagents:

104 Eternium Ore
156 Fel Iron Ore
3 Primal Nether
46 Primal Life
48 Primal Shadow
5 Primal Earth
20 Adamantite Powder
Average Value (excluding the 3 Primal Nethers): 1300g

Regards,

Immortares
(EU - Twisting Nether - Alliance - Aeternitas)

Commento di wingman

Just a tip for affliction warlocks on Hydross. Just put one set of dots on each phrase, do not refresh them. Reason for this is because aggro resets on element change, and if something ticks while the new tank is establishing aggro, chances are you'll pull him back over the line, get 8 adds, and that's a wipe.

For the same reason, I recommend not wearing the 4pc tier 4 set bonus for this fight.

Observe my video here from my affliction warlock's POV: http://files.filefront.com/hydross1avi/;8614973;/fileinfo.html

Commento di Kaitain

A good way to control the adds is just have 4 bears/DPSwarriors OT them wearing a mix of whatever (inc greens) Frost and Nature resistance gear you can get (Stam and Resistance are the 2 stats you need) without over gimping your other stats. DPS warriros are fine for this so long as they have decent stamina. All the dmg is spell dmg which cannot crit so you don't need defence or anything.

The adds appear in exactly the same place (relative to hydross) so after you've wiped a few times and seen the fight you can get your OT crew to just immediately grab them, spank high threat moves on them then move them all in towards Hydross. By then it's safe to AoE the living daylights out of the clusterred mobs (including the boss).

It's also not a bad idea to but raid target symbols on the two Main Tanks.

Commento di 54335

We did this fight with four tanks, two half and half tanks and two full resistance tanks. Instead of banishing any ads we just had the tanks tank two each and move them close to Hydross. We kept all DPS on Hydross until the ads were thoroughly tanked. At that point we just aoed down the ads which also put damage on the ads.

Our AOE consistend of:
4 mages (2 fire 2 frost)
1 warlock
1 DPS warrior

This was enough to bring down the ads well before Mark 3. As well doing it this way sped things up and allowed us a larger window for burning down Hydross. We tried single targt DPS before and would have around 3-4 seconds to DPS Hydross, doing it this way would allow us 10-12 seconds (not including the dps on hydross before aoe). As well since we had our rogues and hunters stay on hydross it added a lot of extra damage.

Doing it this way we were a full 2 minutes ahead of the enrage timer and when a person called for the "15% burst" our raid leaders went "LOL"..

Once yu learn how to pull Hydross, learn how to do transitions, and learn when to aoe this fight is a cake walk. Having said that, 16 wipes to learn all of this.

Commento di 55524

or you can use a paladin to tank all the adds

Commento di angelblack

Soloed by Melanie @ Vek'nilash (warlock)
link to forum http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1710791098&sid=1
link to movie http://files.filefront.com/Hydrosswmv/;9086416;/fileinfo.html

Edit for posterity:
Said warlock used a path exploit back in Patch 2.3.0 to allow kiting of Hydross indefinitely. This assumed pulling the boss with Eye of Kilrogg to a specific spot then starting a very slow process of dotting the boss - jumping in the water - get out of the water etc. while the boss struggled to get to the warlock using a lengthy path.
Combined with the extreme sustainability an affliction warlock has / had, he could keep this up for a long time (i think it took him 2 hours iirc). The pathing bug was fixed pretty fast and not many people managed to do it before that hotfix.

Commento di 102243

It's not that hard of a fight- I found the real difficulty in handling the adds that come at the phase switches.

Commento di 76933

Without a doubt, the main challenges of this fight are controlling aggro during transitions and getting the Spawns of Hydross down fast enough.

My guild found it incredibly helpful to have the tanks call out key parts of the fight. For example, the Hydross tanks would call out when Hydross was about to be changed from frost to poison or vice versa. This let the DPS know when to stop so the transition could go through without problems. The add tanks both called out when they were comfortable with their aggro so our warlocks could begin to cast seed of corruption without pulling aggro and being killed.

Nothing will help you more in this fight than communication.

Our first kill video: http://files.filefront.com/Hydrosswmv/;9126142;/fileinfo.html
(Poison form tank perspective)

Hope it helps ^_^.

Commento di 106896

We use a 5 tank strategy: 1 NR - tank, 1 FrR tank, 3 mixed tanks. (although our feral usually goes without much resist)

all the above, the adds tanks pick up everytime the same mob/position and pull it straight away on the boss. The NR- and FR tank tank the 4th add when not tanking Hydross.
Nuke down the add of the full Resist tank and aoe the others.
Most of the times all adds down before second mark is up.

Commento di 32272

Instructional video:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=VAgTiGXQ7BM

Commento di 39142

Our guild found it easier to pull by sending the nature tank run to the pillar to start pulling the elementals as we send a pet to agro the boss with the frost tank right behind it to take the agro off the pet. This is because pets have smaller agro radii than players. This way, the battle can start with the frost form and you don't have to deal with 8 elementals. Also, when we switch forms, we had the entire raid run to the corresponding area so that we don't get any screwups with healing threat or dot threat.

Commento di 66767

You can use PvP trinkets (I used http://www.wowhead.com/?item=18846) to break Water Tomb and quickly pop a pot and/or health stone to improve your chances of surviving when you are heavily debuffed

Commento di 114913

The poor guys, being kept here, it problem drove him crazy. He's got one of the coolest voiceovers though: "I have no choice, I cannot allow you to interfere"

Commento di karti

no druid maintank possible for all epic resistance gear is plate?

Commento di Myraxa

It's possible for one prot warrior to MT both of Hydross' forms. Our Frost tank gquit the night before Hydross, so it was either don't kill Hydross (and therefore Vashj) or improvise.

I mixed and matched Fr and Nr resist pieces, and with hunter and pally auras and Flask of Chromatic Wonder, I had about 330 of both resists. We did the transitions faster, because I:

-was not resist capped
-was crittable (about 3%) due to lack of defense rating

He did not hit 5 marks, and we ended up two shotting him (first try was a wipe because a hunter pulled aggro on a transition and made him cross the line again).

Commento di 106152

i remember the guild i was in a while ago did the aoe strat, but mana was always a problem.

now my guild today is getting ready to head back to SSC and i was wondering if you had any tips on how to counter the mana intensive aoe strat. thanks.

Commento di MetalGenocide

Does the Water Tomb and Vile Sludge effect the main tank to? or is that just the rest of the raid?
I never really payed attention to the tanks position as I'm a dps bu tI may have to tank him soon.

Commento di nyctric

First defeated by Nihilum of Magtheridon on the 16th of February, 2007.

Commento di 538409

If I want to run this raid on a medium sized server, is there any chance I'd be able to get a PUG to work?

Commento di Dogatehw

Frost mages should note that he is immune to frost-based attacks, so use arcane missiles.

Commento di 331468

The most the game mechanics will let damage be resisted is 75% regardless of your toon's level. As this is a lvl 73 Boss, the maximum reistance you want per school is 365, anything past that will have no further reduction in damage.

Commento di 462722

Her voice makes me pee my pants.

Commento di 462722

And I'm pretty sure it's a she.

Commento di jameinel

Duo-ed by a T10 (251) Feral Druid and a T9 (232) Holy Paladin.

The debuff isn't a huge deal, though you'll still want to switch between forms. It stacks to at least 500% if you try to stay in one form. Switching at 100% or even 250% was fine, the adds that pop do the new damage, so the stack count isn't a big deal.

You still want to make sure everyone switches sides, so that the aggro wipe doesn't pull the boss back over the line and you end up with 8 adds, 4 of which are doing +100% damage.

Druid tank was doing 4.5kdps, which was easily enough to beat the enrage timer. Mostly used limited swipes and glyphed maul to take out the adds, they die fast enough you don't really need to target switch.

I was surprised that the debuff didn't have a 'counter' on it. You have to actually mouse over the debuff to determine how high it is stacked.

Commento di Crilmon

Soloed as a Protadin today. I switched forms right at 250% mark, and AOEd adds down quickly. took me 8 minutes and 2 seconds. I was in average item level of 353, with a mix of 359 rep gear, 352 PVP gear, and 346 heroic/justice point gear. The fight could be done with less, but I would reccomend having full heroic gear.

Commento di AyaJulia

Decided to try this guy on my way out from picking up my hunter T5 2pc from Leotheras. Was a pretty easy solo. I used a Spirit Beast, and I feel confident that between Spirit Mend (on me after frost tombs), Mend Pet, and Spirit Bond, I probably didn't even really need to change forms... but I did anyway. This should be obvious, but note that while he's in nature form, you'll have to find a place to put Steady Shot back on your bars, as he's immune to Cobra Shot (and Serpent Sting).

I was in about ~351 ilvl gear, and it was like a free 250g just for showing up. Enjoy.

Commento di 486979

Soloed as a 85 lvl Subtlety rogue.
First of all : don't even try as assasination.You will need to change his form and as doing so he will be immuned to poisons.
The fight is pretty straight forward, you just need to swap his form when you reach 4th mark (100% more dmg taken).Just drag him over the edge and kill 4 adds that appear.GL

Commento di Nobbel

Guides explaining on how to solo a few bosses of Serpentshrine Cavern.
Hydross the Unstable & The Lurker Below
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VyAjFXvvzU
Morogrim Tidewalker:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haZi95DDDJw
Leotheras the Blind:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9K6HueIzrE
There is one more boss that can be done but not by me. He is called:
Fathom-Lord Karathress
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9K6HueIzrE
Lady Vashj is impossible even at 85.

Nobbel 85 Paladin

Commento di GaronaLC

Beware deathknight, when trying to solo as unholy, the adds will deal big damage when you transistion him and they NEED to be nuked down, poping AMS is VERY crucial, and even if you do evrything right the fight should prove hard sionce you cant use ur actuall spell arsenal.

Very easyly soload by blood deathknights since they can spam HS to kill adds and they will absorb big dmg aswell.

EDIT : I dont mean to se it is diffucult, but since you cant use SS or FS it should prove harder that normal.

Commento di 264650

Soloed on 85 as enhance shaman. Be sure to call your wolves early, as you will need them second time. Use your elementals to tank adds, burn them with Fire Nova - you'll need MW for healing. Definitely doable, but a bit hard to choose between getting unhealable damage from boss if changing phase too late, and getting out too many adds - we're short at AoE atm.

Commento di TheSlice

Soloed as 85 Ret Paladin. Half 346 and half 359 gear (including trinkets and weapon). By far, the hardest of the 4 soloable bosses I was able to manage, but it was a fun and rewarding challenge. I strongly recommend it. Also helps fill up ye olde coin purse with 250g a pop :). I'd give this boss an 9/10 difficulty rating at that gear level. Basic tactics were to burn him hard at the start, drag him out of his safe zone when i got the 50% mark, kill adds and heal up a bit and keep switching at 50% and buring adds, while waiting on CDs for a burst phase. Fight shouldn't last more than 7 or 8 minutes at that rate. Switching to Insight seal helps a lot when aiming for survivability :).

While we're on the subject, here's ratings and my strategies for the other bosses at that gear level: -

The Lurker Below: 5/10. Pretty easy. Don't get hit by his beam and kill adds when he submerges. As for the knockback, just tolerate it and heal often.

Morogrim Tidewalker: 3/10. Really easy. Does little damage. The adds he summons often do low damage and die easily. Useful for Divine Storm healing. Simply kite when he starts summoning orbs and it's won.

Leotharas the Blind: 7/10. Can be tricky, but easy if you know what you're doing. Devotion Aura for human phase and burn CDs to nuke hard. When he goes demon form, change to resistance aura and focus on surviving. Pop Divine Protection at around 12 stacks and heal like crazy. Switch to Insight Seal and spam any abilities that can generate a Hand of Light proc so you can use Word of Glory to heal yourself. When he gets to about 20% he will morph into his hybrid form and spam the demon phase fire bolt. It's crucial you don't chain to this phase from a demon phase unless you only have a few stacks, otherwise the damage can easily kill you. If you have a bubble available, then it's a non-issue. Simply use it at around 10 or so stacks and then finish him off.

Hope that helps people kill these bosses, get some classic tier gear, and earn an extra 1000g per week :).

Commento di Arbron

I was surprised that the debuff didn't have a 'counter' on it. You have to actually mouse over the debuff to determine how high it is stacked.

This is because he doesn't actually stack it. If he was stacking it, then the second application would make it 20% damage, the third 30% damage, etc.

Hydross has six different spells called Mark of Hydross (and its nature counterpart), all of which share the same debuff icon. He simply applies the next strongest one in a sequence; this allowed the programmers to give the spell a "non-linear stacking" property, or at least the illusion of one.

Commento di sorsa

Best shot on my heroic ~351 iLvL fury warrior was about 50%, with 1 switch after 3 stacks. About 90% with shield and prot gear.

Kind of disappointing concidering how easily I solo him on my prot paladin and blood DK, and sadly Fury is the only real option for soloing old world as a Warrior, due to the lack of any serious self healing on both prot and arms.

Commento di 830561

Soloed as enhance ilvl 366, classic raid talents and glyphs, prismatic elixir and drums of kings on, changed phase once on 500% debuff.
Piece of cake :)

Commento di 618266

Just soloed this on my SMF Fury Warrior, ilvl 352. Full Fury soloing spec (http://www.wowhead.com/talent#LG0bZhrMssdkRdboc:zkmcwazmM), 8% hit, 26 expertise, 127k HP, Mending x 2. Elisir Prismatico, Elisir del Cobra, Pergamena Runica della Fermezza II, Tamburi dei Re Dimenticati, and Urlo di Battaglia.

Total Damage done: 2.83M
DPS: 12,820

Total Healing done: 392.6K
HPS: 1777

I never let the debuff get past 50%. When you switch his form, nuke the adds down quickly and get back on the boss. Keep Bloodthirst on CD, and Demoralizing Shout up. I had to blow my Mastery trinket + Rallying Cry + Enraged Regeneration (77k heal) when he was at about 50% HP. I used Heroic Leap for the switches and got a tick of a bandage off each time. It's not a huge amount of extra healing, but anything helps. Finished the fight with about 20% HP left.

Commento di glycereth

easiest way to do it, boomkin

switch at 25%(debuff)

mushroom 1 shot adds, rejuv+LBx3 while you move to switch.

just don't waste time using IS/Wrath when he's in nature form since he's immune.

no resist gears, no pots/flask/elixirs, didnt even get below 80%.

Commento di 575688

How to solo @ lvl 85

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF-60a6Zu3M&feature=channel_video_title

Commento di TheRealLink

Just soloed this guy finally tonight on my 85 Fury Warrior with an ilevel of 385.

+ a million rate-ups sir for Sandbox ^^ (can't seem to quote under your reply atm). Had no idea those Prismatic Elixirs existed! I was scrounging around for FR gear but when I was trying that, it ended up hurting my damage output so badly that I'd be doing just as good without the FR gear and higher stats. Previous to re-reading everything, I was at a loss of trying different combinations hoping that one would work. When I saw your post, I had wondered how the heck you were solo-killing this guy with an ilevel of 352 when I couldn't get him barely past halfway with gear in the mid 380s! Tried it with the elixir + Drums of Kings and boy, that made all the difference in the world! A couple back and forths with water/nature @100+% each and the fight was substantially easier than before (though not by any means a push over). I felt far more in control right from the get-go and didn't even have to blow all my CDs.

250G, thank you!

Commento di 450235

Soloed as a 85 protection warrior ilvl 360.

They key to victory for me was 2/2 Impending Victory . I switched position at 50%, which caused the adds to spawn and killed them with Devastate to trigger Victory Rush.

Total healing done:
33% Blood Craze
33% Victory Rush
+- 65k Enraged Regeneration and some other healing effects like enchant weapon - mending, bandage ticks while switching with heroic leap.

Killed him with full health left, it was relatively easy this way. Good luck!

Commento di Schadow

soloable as an Elemental Shaman, start in the Water phase until 100% debuff, switch it to the poison buff. Nuke elementals, wait for the Water debuff to drop and switch back to the water form. Nuke elementals again and nuke Hydross. He should go down then.

The important part here is that he is immune to nature damage in his nature phase and Lightning Bolt and Chain Lightning is not working on him (on the adds, it does work).

Commento di Wurmin

Easy to solo as survival hunter with spirit bond picked up from BM, just remember to put your pet to passive from any other stance and then move into the areas where Hydross changes to frost / nature form, and just fast Misdirection (I personally use this macro for instant misdirection to pet

/target -yourpetname-
/cast Misdirection
/targetlasttarget

and just multi-shot those adds, they have low hp and will die by just one or two multi-shots.
Nature form is kinda annoying, mainly becouse of -50% dmg dealt debuff, also changing to Aspect of the Wild helps, thought not significantly. And as survival, remember to use steady instead of cobra shot, since he is immune to nature damage

And last note, if someone wonders why I change to passive instead of just moving my pet, well, I find it myself kinda annoying to move it "manually", since I seem to have problems with it, and those problems are UNIMAGINABLE little, but it still harms me

Commento di sylar1986

Just solo'd as a prot pally, ilvl 383, only read a few comments before giving it ago, has res aura, BoM and seal of light... fight was supprisingly easy! never dropped below 95% hp, wasn't really sure of the tactics but from videos i'd seen id drag boss away and back in when they reached 25%, really wasn't a problem, good luck to all those giving it a try! a easy 250g :)

Commento di 995747

Just did this on my ret paladin (Argeltal - Illidan), 396 gear. Pretty easy, just as long as you switch him out from his spawn point (pulling him 30-40 yards away) and back. I'd recommend switching him every 20-30 seconds. Best way is just to use Seal of Insight and save yourself some trouble when it comes to health / healing.

Periodic use of WoG at full power is sometimes necessary. Took me less than 3 minutes to down him. I also use Divine Protection glyphed for 40% spell damage reduction. Use this on cooldown.

Very easy, just remember, don't do like I did on my first try and attempt to burn him down without moving :P.

Commento di 250679

Seems the gold has been nerfed to 20g with the 5.0.3 patch. Sad Panda, indeed.

<EDIT> I had apparently missed that all bosses had had their gold value nerfed, so that you allways get the same amount of gold per person, regardless of how many people participate. I need not emphasize how much that change sucks.

Commento di thelonewander

Dont make the same mistake I made first two tries- get her away from the lightening bolts lol

Commento di kerrymayall

For those of you trying to get to grips with the mechanics of this fight and thus having trouble soloing it, there are basically 2 'phases' or boss forms you have to contend with, those being his Water/Nature damage form and his Corruption/Poison damage form.

As you are probably aware, he puts a stacking debuff on you which increases the amount of damage on you which, depending on your self-heal abilities, can end up killing you. There are 2 different debuffs he puts on you, depending on what form he is in. The trick to the fight is to switch the boss between his 2 forms so that the debuffs will fall off, and the key to this is moving the boss between 2 locations.

So initially you can fight him where he spawns; this is his nature phase. When it is time to switch, walk down the ramp to drag him away until the boss switches to its poison phase. You will know it has switched because it will spawn adds and I think the boss changes colour too (not entirely sure).

At what level debuff you switch is up to you. 50% if you want to play it safe, or 100% if you have good self healing. You will need to be aware that if you are using a pet class that you will probably have to manually move it around as it can cause issues with the boss returning immediately to it's previous form, thereby allowing that forms debuff to stack even higher.

Once you get your character to higher ilvl's these mechanics become less relevant as you will likely be able to just zerg the boss down regardless.

Commento di Morbius

Soloed this fight with my 85 blood DK in unholy presence to take advantage of Glyph of Dark Succor which used to be good when this video was made but now sucks. Buff up with potions, food and Drums of Forgotten Kings.

He starts off in nature form. As you fight him he puts a debuff on you that stacks up and increases the amount of nature damage he does to you. If you pull him off the platform he switches to poison form and puts a debuff on you that stacks up and increases the amount of poison damage he does to you.

So basically what you want to do is move him back and forth on and off the platform so the corresponding debuff doesn't build up too high and cause him to do huge damage to you.

Start the fight where he's standing until he starts hitting you for 10k nature damage then move him off the platform until he switches to poison form and turns green. Fight him off the platform until he starts hitting you for 10k poison damage then move him back on the platform until he switches to nature form and turns blue.

Keep repeating this until you kill him. Ignore the adds. Heart Strike and the DOTs that you spread around will kill them.

At level 90 you can probably tank him to higher levels of damage before you have to move him.

Here's the video:
http://youtu.be/CUl1r5zY_9k

Commento di Everliving14

I was able to solo this on my level 78 Death Knight with no cooldown usage whatsoever - and beat the enrage timer by 4 minutes.

At level 90, I'd imagine it's a zerg fight that would take only a few seconds. You'd be able to outheal him easily, probably even with a +500% damage taken debuff, if it even got the opportunity to stack that high.

Commento di huldu

I just can not get the pet to drop from this boss! I've been doing this for two months on 4-6 level 90's every week and nothing. Has to be among the lowest drop rates on pets on these raid bosses?

Commento di Mydge

At level 100 no mechanics required.

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