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Commento di Silah

Drops from Hydross the Unstable in Serpentshrine Cavern.

Commento di greengoo

Major use for this is clear: It is the Warrior or Paladin tank's response to any mob who applies an "Unbalancing Strike" debuff (temporary defense drop) in order to avoid getting crushed or crit. An example would be the Twin Emperors of AQ.

In any other fight however, it would be somewhat of a waste of a tanking trinket slot, far better mitigation trinks are available. So perhaps it is being included as a ward against a future fight using an updated version of this mechanic.

Commento di 38138

As a warrior at level 70, you gain 1% overall avoidance per 20 defense rating, and some block % too.

This trinket gives you:

- A passive 1.75% avoidance & around 0.5% block chance.
- An active 7.5% avoidance & around 2+% block chance.

A nice trinket, but really not much better at all than moroes' dodge trinket, and furthermore this trinket is nigh on useless for a feral tank wheras moroes' dodge trinket can be used by any tank.

SSC itemization continuing to fail hard.

Commento di 12472

as of 2.1.0

38 def
Use: increases def rating by 150, but decreses AP by 300. lasts 15 sec

Commento di 58195

Actually this trinket is quite useful for a feral tank as it has the highest pure def availiable from a trinket, granted the clicky on it is better for a war/pal.

basically it can free up the other trinket slot with the right accessories allowing the druid to use the full t4/5/6 gear without having to resort to any of the heavy clefthide gear.

Commento di 9866

Moroes' Lucky Pocket Watch is the most similar item this would be considered an upgrade from.

Moroes' Lucky Pocket Watch:
equip: 2% avoidance
use: additional 15.85% avoidance

Scarab of Displacement:
equip: 2.12% avoidance/0.70% block chance (Druid: 1.41% avoidance)
use: additional 8.35% avoidance/2.78% block chance (Druid: 5.57% avoidance)

For paladins and warriors, it's not a huge slam-dunk upgrade over the pocket watch, but it is a good trinket. The passive effect is a little better, the use is significantly worse, and defense instead of dodge has the small added benefit of helping you crank up defense when wearing resist gear that might be struggling a bit on crit immunity -- like when you are tanking the guy who drops this :)

I'm sure a lot of folks turn up their nose at 0.12% improvement and a usually-useless 0.7% block, but an extra 0.12% improvement when you are already at the ~50% avoidance that you will probably have from full pre-SSC/TK gear means 0.24% less incoming damage, and very slightly more for warriors vs. mobs that hit faster than every 2.5s -- the avoidance will very slightly increase shield block uptime.

For me (warrior) I like it better... I prefer even the minor passive always-on benefit to the better panic button. If theres a fight that really wants the panic button, it'll still be in my bags. All the same, I think thats a matter of opinion -- I wouldn't think anyone was wrong for preferring the stopwatch.

I would guess druids would absolutely never prefer this to a pocket watch, but then again, I'm not a druid.

Commento di 13708

This is actually pretty good for hydross himself, makes it easier to maintain high defense with a small number of FrostR/NR pieces.

Commento di Kaitain

I agree with CastleOrange, the big strength of this trinket is the high defence value and is therefore good for any fight where you might want to swap a piece of your regular gear (or several) for some resistance gear.

Therefore, to calculate it's worth for dmg mitigation, it would be worth considerring how much mitigation you get in a particular fight from this AND 2 or 3 other items together.

For example - a fight where the dmg is part physical part shadow dmg, both at dangerous levels. Take off your normal defence-laden chest and legs and take off Moroes trinket, put on a high Resistance chest and legs and this trinket to cover the lost defence..... more mitigation? quite likely a lot more.

Commento di 37463

I'm not sure if Defense works differently for warriors, but I didn't think so. (Has this thing been reitemized?)

Anyway here's the math as I see it.
Passive: 42 DR / 2.37 = ~18 actual defense
18 / 25 = 0.72 chance per dodge/parry/miss/block
That's 2.2% pure mitigation, 0.72% block

Active: 165 DR / 2.37 = ~70 actual defense
70 / 25 = 2.8 chance per dodge/parry/miss/block
8.4% pure mitigation (maximum), 2.8 block
Counting only full %'s that 6% pure mitigation minimum with the on use (since partial %'s don't count on their own)

Note: If you are already uncrushable (which you would be in SSC) via shield block or holy shield, the extra block chance will be falling off the combat table. That's still a fair chunk of extra, pure mitigation on use, but given things like the pocket watch I have to agree that the passive effect is what this is useful for. Another thing it would allow you to do is trade out some of your defense gems for stamina ones. Also, for pallies (assuming would could obtain this) the threat loss would be negligible since we rely on spell damage.

Commento di corebit

I think this trinket will be very useful post-2.3, since a lot of Zul'Aman tanking gear I have seen scratch defense in favor of increased threat generation (hit rating, expertise, parry, and block value).
This is useful in case you want to maintain 490+ defense while wearing high threat gear.

Commento di 102766

it is a good partner of Insignia of Shadowmoon for tanking..... superb defense rating

Commento di 3465

165 defense rating = approx 6.6% avoidance per avoidance stat.

The use on this provides:
6.6% more miss, dodge, parry (the pure avoidance stats), and since your block is probably already falling off the table, the block isn't worth mentioning. (6.6x3)

19.8% pure avoidance when activating this trinket.
vs
15.85% avoidance on the activation from http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28528

This is quite a bit more than just a "sidegrade" as people claim. This is genuinely better than moroes lucky pocket watch.
The passive also provides 0.71 parry, dodge, block, miss (2.84% avoidance passive, counting block this time because passive may be providing part of your block benefit)

Commento di aeoris

This is a fantastic trinket for protection paladins at the very least, it is debatable with other tanking classes, but to gain that much additional defense at the cost of strength (attack power), a stat that we try our best to avoid at all costs, then you are looking at much more flexibility for your second trinket. With this in hand you could pick up a darkmoon fair card for stamina and not have to worry about the lost defense.

edit ---

This post has been mostly outdated by the changes in 3.0 to protection paladins, and as such it is about equally viable for any tanking class.

Commento di 71213

for people who don't think this trinket is hardcore for tanking your wrong. not only does it have alot of defense, but allows you to itemize your gear how you want. take for example if you were under the defense cap, which believe it or not alot of tanks in some of the old badge gear are barely hanging by a thread, you could swap this trinket in and stack stamina or something else to your liking.

Commento di 112342

Another thing everyone seems to be forgetting is that defense also gives extra miss avoidance. I don't know the conversion rates but an extra 42 defense and and the use effect adds more avoidance than just parry/dodge. If someone could post with the calculations it would be great.

From what i read on wowwiki you get an extra 1% static miss avoidance and 4% miss on use, so obviously more pure avoidance while equipped than the pocketwatch but still less when used. Although the extra static helps prevent those "oh $%^&" situations....clearly superior in my opinion. Now if i could only get Hydross to drop it....

Commento di 205642

This is better for a warrior than Mores pocketwatch

From Scarab you will aproximately get:

Dodge = 0,72
Parry = 1,26
Block = 0,72
Miss = 0,72

In total = 3,42

From the special ability you get:

Dodge = 2,8
Parry = 2,2
Block = 2,7
Miss = 2,8

In total = 10,5

From Mores pocketwatch you will get:

Dodge = 2,01

in total = 2,01

From the special ability:

Dodge = 15,85

In total = 15,85

The special ability from Mores pocketwatch is better than the Scarab, but the scarab is better when you arent using the special ability.

Correct me if im wrong plz, my own lame calculations

Commento di sajaki

this is probably the best pure defense trinket ever, as a warrior tank, even in WLK. i'm still using it at lvl 80 until i'll be defense capped from epic gear only, but until then, it's a good stopgap to get over 535.

Commento di Leepi

I read all these "old as dirt" post about mitigation and only laugh to myself about how things have changed. Now, if the trinket doesn't have +Stam on it, it is hardcore fail to the max. Oh how I hope cata does a double take at the old tanking addage of mitigating rather than absorbing.

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