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Commento di Spectre84

Can't say that those set bonuses are all that appealing.

Commento di wingbrad4

True the 2 set bonus is not all that amazing, probably about 2 casts of arcane blast b4 the haste has run out. That being said look at the 4 set bonus. 18% damage for 30 seconds? That is amazing. Its a free arcane power cast that lasts 2x as long, with no increased mana cost. Popping mirrors, icy veins, arcane power, and talisman of resurgence will be kick ass. I cant wait to see what I hit for then (+48% damage + 20% haste + 599 SP)

Commento di Luoma

To me the 2 set seems good though, atleast for Arcane.
2 out of 4 Arcane Blast will have 12% haste increase - 6% on your Arcane Blasts leading up to another Missile Barrage.

And the 4 set is just awesome. 18% damage increase for 30 seconds with a 3min CD.

Commento di 456649

The haste seems good I'm guessing they didn't add more than four seconds is because you have a 12% chance not to get arc miss proc. As for the 4 piece set bonus, well... I like it but I'm always having to time my Mirrors to points in a boss fight when they won't get aoed to death and I don't want to time mirror image with the rest of my cooldowns so /shrug. Its good but I would have liked something else.

Commento di Alcest

Popping mirrors, icy veins, arcane power, and talisman of resurgence will be kick ass

There are 2 problems with this line.

1. Mirror is on the GCD, which may mess up a few macros some people have.
2. If you still have the bolded trinket by the time you have FOUR pieces of T10 *assuming you got the reign so you only need to replace one trinket*, then... yeah... You get my point :3

And to everyone wondering, MI's actual duration is a full 30 seconds, REGARDLESS when the images die or not *Notice how you still have the no-aggro part even if they all die before 30 seconds?*, so this 18% damage increase will definitely stay for the full duration of 30 seconds, again REGARDLESS if your images die or not (though it's near impossible for them to die now, unless they are somehow being single targeted... 90% AoE reduction should be more than enough :O*

Commento di turulo

If you aren't raiding arcane by now you don't know how to play your class.

Unfortunatelly you are right but I hate your elitist attitude. If no one tries different builds and stick to the "best reported build" all the time we never learn anything. To be honest it will probably suck but I will definitelly try the deep frost build with the new deep freeze and the ice lance change.

Also although it's known that haste is better than crit for arcane mages, crit is still a very important stat and having a good crit% makes a difference between mediocre and good damage.

About the T10 set bonuses im overall satisfied because they are not like a stat improvement as the previous one, they add a little more decision about what to cast next.

Commento di Kyushu

So if it speeds up your Arcane Missiles and 2 Arcane blasts, that's 3/5 of your regular rotation sped up by 12%. Roughly a 7.2% damage increase. The bonus is even higher with haste buffs or running with fewer than 4 stacks. For a 2 piece bonus it's outstanding.

For the 4 piece. if you have MI up for 30s/180s that's 18% dmg bonus 17% of the time. That's a 3% bonus. Even stacking cooldowns doesn't double the bonus.

Not sure why some people here are saying the 2 piece sucks and the 4 piece is awesome. Some quick napkin math shows they aren't even close.

Commento di 195606

As most already know, you can have bloodlust and icy veins up at the same time, for a deadly haste bonus. With missle barrage up, the damage is crazy. So what I'm wondering is if you can have bloodlust+veins+12% haste+missle barrage up, all at the same time. I hate the haters of the two set bonus.

Commento di TehCANAD1AN

This is unbelievable. No Spirit on any of the Mage tier 10 pieces. Truly this signifies the end of days. Repent, for the Apocalypse has come.

In all seriousness though, it's nice to see some actual Crit rating as opposed to Spirit, aka Crit Rating Light.

Commento di 236394

How is this level of regalia obtained? Is it the same system as tier 9, where this (lowest level) would be bought for emblems?

Commento di 440380

t10.0 costs:
Gloves+shoulders 60 Emblem of Frost
Hood, Robe, Leggins 95 Emblems of Frost

t10.1 costs
t10.0 piece+ Mark of Sanctification

t10.2 costs
t10.1 piece+ mark of Sanctification (HEROIC)

Commento di 497102

i know this kinda semis like a wired question but were it the vendor to buy this t10?

Commento di 499148

It is possible to get 3 Arcane Blasts of the 2 piece proc. I myself will probably get that. And most of you will during Bloodlust/Heroism. I've gathered alot of haste and got my ABs down pretty much in cast time. Not to mention that your ABs will be faster with that bonus haste aswell. As long as you have a little time left on the buff when you start your third AB you will be fine.
Just saying its a really nice bonus. Definately a dps increase.
The 4-piece is just pure awesome. Even if you dont have the rest of your cds ready. More dmg and no threat!

Commento di Mizie

does the 4 set bonus stack with arcane power you think?

would be sweet :)

myself will prolly get in 2-3 AB's within this 2set bonus buff :)
though maybe more with icy veins ( with the shaman buff, icy veins and heroism , my AB cast time is 1.1 sec :3 )

Commento di 246386

First I would really like to know why people downrated my comment.

9.9 and 10.9 is what Blizzard themselves call it. Proof: http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/armorsets/
I also posted what I thought was gonna be the best non-set piece to use with this set (Helpful?): Leggings of Woven Death.

Anyways, about the (2) setbonus, for arcane you get the setbonus after you've finished casting the affected arcane missiles. So the Missiles ain't affected by the proc but you don't lose anything from it. With Bloodlust / Heroism or other cooldowns, it is possible to get in 4 arcane blasts and get the barrage proc during the buff. Otherwise, you should normally get in 2-3 Arcane Blasts.

For fire I guess you will have it up more. You should have time to cast 2 fireballs within the buff, and get hot streak. Or even cast 1 and get Hot Streak. When you have to use Living Bomb you use abit from that though but I guess this setbonus will be up 80-90% of the time for fire. And that is good for 12% Haste.

Since for frost, brain freeze has quite low proc chance and could take more than 10 seconds to even get the proc from the talent. Which means you will not have this setbonus up as much for frost, which makes it worse than for the other specs. Not that you should spec frost anyways.

So it's best for:
1-Fire
2-Arcane
3-Frost

Commento di qwertydood

Modeled after the San'layn Blood Princes' robes.

Commento di Plight

Does anyone know if these will ever be available as drops from bosses? ie tokens? Thanks!

Commento di Plight

Is anyone getting non set pieces before these set pieces? ie belt and cloak from frost emblems? I see so many people out there with the cloak or the belt but they don't have any T10, or maybe just 1 T10.

Commento di 247567

I personally bought the cloak with badges before I bought any tier. I currently have one piece, will have two by the end of the week. The cloak is really good Arcane, haste, spirit, sp etc. I'm not sure what the belt looks like stat wise but I believe that looked really good for arcane too. I know the main reason I bought the cloak was because I was having a very difficult time getting a back slot item, I was still in the 213 badge. I could see why people would go for non-tier pieces first though, and yes, I believe there are probably a decent amount of people doing this.

Commento di 258919

I got both the gloves and legs of this off of a VoA run in which I was the only mage.

This set has some pretty nifty bonuses. For starters, the haste bonus stacks with other haste effects - including trinkets and, yes, Black Magic. So, ideally, if you proc Black Magic and this (2) set proc, you can get some pretty nifty speed in.

The proc rate for the (2) set is roughly 2/3 of the time. Most arcane mages get missile barrage within one spell cycle. The only downside is the buff is very short-term, so you don't have time to cast anything besides Arcane Blasts. Also note that the proc only occurs when you use the proc (in most cases, missile barrage). Very useful for arcane mages. Not sure about how good it is for frost or fire raiders, but I assume it would be helpful there too.

The (4) set bonus effectively gives you an Arcane Power buff without using more mana. Seeing as mages use Mirror Image at least once per a boss fight, this can dramatically increase your DPS for 30 seconds.

Commento di Oxalus

I've had the two-piece bonus for a while now, and it's working out better than I expected. I wish it lasted a little longer, but even at five seconds, I can get three arcane blasts off under any circumstances, and possibly get a fourth started under ideal conditions. I haven't been able to confirm it yet. As best as I can tell, the haste effect doesn't kick in until your Missile Barrage finishes casting.

When I'm lucky, I'll get a MB proc every 2-3 AB casts for a solid 15 seconds or so, and the burst DPS from 100% uptime on the proc is insane. Over the long term, it's closer to every four casts, which means the proc comes and goes. It's still up very often, however. At this point I'm close to 32k mana raid-buffed, so I can just spam AB until I get another proc, rather than the old rotation of ABx4 AM.

With this proc in place I'm going to have to drop some haste gems and replace them with Potent Ametrine, because I'm dropping under 0.9 seconds on AB casts with Heroism, Icy Veins and Black Magic up (795 unbuffed haste). I might even have to swap BM out for 63sp again, or take IV out of my nuke macro to ensure that it doesn't stack with Heroism (although invariably someone will end up casting it at an unexpected time and causing overlaps). In any event, with BM and the two-piece proc in place, it seems like you want to keep your haste at about 700 max before changing your focus to crit.

The four piece bonus should be incredible, and the lack of spirit is a pleasant change of pace. My only gripes about this set are the terrible socket selection and the excessive hit rating. Four blue, really? Blue sockets are the bane of mages. The socket bonuses are all just a little too good to ignore, except possibly on the gloves. We need two blues for Chaotic Skyflare Diamond, but anything more is a complete waste. The 10-spirit hybrid gems don't get you enough crit to make up for the DPS lost by not being able to socket a red/yellow gem. As for hit rating, I've got zero hit from any of my current gear in the five slots this set uses, zero hit from gems, and only 12 hit from enchants (Icewalker). I'm still over the hit cap for arcane just from items in my other slots (damn you, Ashen Band of Destruction). If I swap in the gloves and the pants I'll be wasting a ton of item points on unneeded hit rating. The only thing that really makes sense is to wear four tier pieces and Leggings of Woven Death, but dang, those things are expensive. And you're still stuck with four blue sockets.

Commento di 258219

what i like about the 2pc bonus is that if you're in a mana conservative mode i.e. 3xAB instead of 4xAB the proc will almost always be up, dependent only on MB proc. i doubt it's as much dps as a 4xAB rotation but it definitely is an interesting option.

Commento di Oxalus

Not sure how ABx3 instead of ABx4 helps you keep the proc up more often. The proc only occurs when you cast AB, and you get a 40% chance off every AB cast. ABx3AM results in fewer MB procs than ABx4AM will, so fewer set bonus proc effects. You don't get the haste when you cast AM, you get it when you cast AM after MB has procced. My current rotation is ABxInfinity, only cast AM when MB procs. Even after ditching Talisman of Resurgence, this is sustainable through an entire boss fight without having to resort to evo most of the time. The occasional streak of 6-10 AB with no proc can really drain the mana though, so you might want to pop AM and interrupt it just to reset the debuff.

Commento di 109740

For arcane mages, if you have over 364.3 haste rating from gear, all 4 arcane blasts will be inside the 12% haste proc when you are in icy veins. This includes the haste talent, but leaves no room for latency so you will need some more.

You would need over 998 rating (+ some for latency) to do it outside icy veins.

Equation to work it out is this:
rating needed = 32.79 ((15000/(p+100)) - 100)

where p = total of percentage haste increases (ie. icy veins, bloodlust, netherwind presence, the proc itself)

info from http://www.wowwiki.com/Spell_haste, equation simplified with Wolfram Alpha because I fail at maths

Commento di 492842

Anyone else notice on the character sheet, Bloodmage shoulders glow green, but on the character glow yellow?

Commento di 563818

equal DPS wise? Only if you don't know how to gear / spec / play arcane. If you do, it's not even close (FYI, I play both specs, and sadly arcane is the only viable one for boss fights these days, unless you think a 10-20% reduction to your DPS and an increase to mana consumption is okay).

Well, Simucrafting puts them within 200 dps (EDIT: 2-5%) of each other. Could it be that you don't know how to gear / spec / play fire?

Remember, Fire scales much better with crit than haste (also in terms of mana efficiency), whereas for arcane it's the other way around. If you play fire in your haste-gemmed arcane gear, yeah, then you are gonna loose a good chunk of your dps and see your mana vanish down the drain

Edit Edit: Really looking forward to 3.3.3 where Empowered Fire and TtW gets expanded to include Pyroblast as well - should be interesting.

Commento di 212676

In 4.0.1 the total justice point cost of T10 is 4690JP according to the PTR.

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