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Commento di taohu

I got the Torn Zandalari Journal from Arcane Trove.

The particular journal (and possibly all the books) were able to be traded and sold on the auction house. If you got the whole set you could loan them off to guildies/friends so they could get their achievements.

Commento di jd812

I just looted Diario degli Zandalari Fradicio on the Isola dei Giganti off of a Dinomante Zandalari, the same mobs that drop the Zandalari pets, Mordirotule Zandalari, Tranciacaviglie Zandalari, Falciapiedi Zandalari and, Mordidita Zandalari, and it did count toward the achievement Assetato di sapere, so they obviously come from more than just the Isola del Tuono.

Commento di zaheer12a

I got Diario degli Zandalari Logoro from Forziere Portafortuna and it counted for the achievement.

Edit: Diario degli Zandalari Stracciato was in another coffer and got me the achievement.

Commento di Aesiria

I guess you can get this from any troll mob and additional sources(according to other comments here).

I've looted three of them - Iron-Bound Zandalari Journal, Waterlogged Zandalari Journal and Torn Zandalari Journal - from trolls in Za'tual.

Commento di Brachylagus

It should be noted that trading these or buying them does not get you credit. My husband got one today and traded it to me to see if I'd get credit, I did not.

Commento di Byst89

I'm an alliance player, and have been farming my Black Prince reputation in Zeb'tula (north of Stage 1 Isle of Thunder). You will find Zeb'tula Spearanger's that throw spears as long as they're above 50% health, and Zeb'tula Alchemists that, when pulled with a large amount of them, can do a fair amount of damage with their thrown potions (which I noticed could not be interrupted).

There is also Zeb'tula Beastcaller's who patrol with two or three dino pets.
And of course the Zeb'tula Stoneshield's who go into a Barrier Stance, and take less damage from the front.

These journals have dropped off these mobs. Proof: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/frostmourne/Byst/simple

I have not farmed in any other locations besides Zeb'tula as no Horde were around this area. Also, this is a great location to farm Chiave del Tesoro di Lei Shen. And if you're really into it, use a Pozione della Fortuna to make it worth the while!

Commento di Tjomm

Farmed all 5 of the journals in about 4 hours. I did farm the zandalari mobs in the Stage 2 (live server).

Commento di sTyLnK

The million dollar question is, what purpose do these cards serve being able to trade or sell them on the AH? There isn't any use for them outside of the achievement, an achievement in which you have to actually get them to drop yourself to get credit. Sometimes Blizzard makes me wonder. lol.

Commento di ComaCanadian

From what I can tell, if you want to read them in chronological order. The books go as followed

Diario degli Zandalari Macchiato di Sangue
Diario degli Zandalari Fradicio
Diario degli Zandalari Rilegato in Ferro
Diario degli Zandalari Logoro
Diario degli Zandalari Stracciato

I quite enjoy all these nuggets of lore. Considering before this patch I loathed troll content, this has really made me go back and read some stories.

Commento di Danshot

Can everyone in a loot group this or is it random?

Commento di Stryker666

These also drop off of trash mobs in Throne of Thunder!

Commento di Wobbit

if there's one thing my childhood has taught me it's
Having Fun Isn't Hard When You've Got a Library Card

Commento di egzosm

Due to the fact that Forziere Portafortuna has nearly have a %100 drop rate for those journals around, this achievement is likely to be earned after Più Mogu al rogu!.

Commento di FuxieDK

Do you need any specific quest to farm these journals?
We are now on Stage 3,74 on my server and I have never seen a single journal drop, and since the area have been active every single day since release of v5.2, I have killed a whole lot of trolls...

Commento di Qtena

Individual books looted by different chars on the same account do not add together for the achievement (sadly).

On the bright side, it seems that each book drops 1 time per char, i.e. you cannot loot the same book twice.

Edit: Sadly, not true. One can loot the same book multiple times =(

Commento di Fylwind

According to the Wowhead data, the probability of getting each book is ~0.25%. Assuming this is correct, it's possible get some rough idea of how many trolls a typical player would have to slay (in total) in order to get all 5 books required for the achievement. The following list shows the percentage of the playerbase that would get this achievement after slaying the given number of trolls:

300 trolls: 0.9%, don't bet on it.
500 trolls: 18%, quite unlikely.
900 trolls: 57%, typical.
1500 trolls: 89%, quite likely.
2500 trolls: 99.0%, very likely.
5000 trolls: 99.998%, almost certainly.

For the math-oriented people: Let the probability of getting each book be p = 0.25% and assume that only one out of the 5 different kinds of books can be looted at a time. After having looted N trolls, the probability of getting at least one of every book (S) is given by (the proof is left as an exercise for the reader):

S = 1 − 5 (1 − p)N + 10 (1 − 2 p)N − 10 (1 − 3 p)N + 5 (1 − 4 p)N − (1 − 5 p)N

To get some numbers, just copy-paste this Wolfram Alpha input:
1-5*(1-p)^N+10*(1-2p)^N-10*(1-3p)^N+5*(1-4p)^N-(1-5p)^N where p = .0025 and N = 300

Note: If you find an error in this analysis please let me know!

TL;DR: Good luck on the achievement (you'll need it)!

Commento di Melandroso

Will everyone in your party be able to loot these?

Commento di Tareth

You can safely vendor the books after you loot them. Looting the item is what counts towards the achievement progress, and it's not required that you keep it.

Commento di TGFseb15

It took me 6 hours of pure grind spread out over several days to get all the journals. My main victims were Stoneshields, Jaguar Warriors, Beastcallers and Commoners with a God Hulk here and there. I used flasks, buff food and potions and I would say that they are worth it since they will boost your killing power and speed up the grind process. They should be cheap to get these days and gold, greys, greens, spirits and cloth you get will more than make up for them. You may hit a dry streak where no journals drop for hours but like any other grind in this game don't give up and it will eventually pay off. Get some music going, sit back and chill.

Also, I think that God Hulks are worth killing if you plan to mass pull. Even though they take a while to kill, buff you get lasts for 5 mins or 20 charges and does some nice damage when you have a mob bunched up around you (note that it has a tendency to aggro neutral mobs). Also don't forget about Zandalari potions, damage or speed buff is a convenient boost that requires almost no effort to get.

Commento di NewView

Are these journals unique, i.e. you can only get each of them once, or can you get each of them an unlimited amount of times?

Commento di IndigloRaver

Outside of the Coffers from Troves, the highest drop rate on a couple of these seems to be off (according to WoWHead) Zandalari Spear-Rangers.

The Spear-Rangers spawn with the pack of Zandalari that pat along the road around the Diremoor (between the Alliance and Horde bases, around the central area where the Mogu Stone Warrior guys are).

They pat alongside a Drakkari God-Hulk (90 Elite) who does a frontal Crash / Knockback. There's usually a couple casters in with them, so watch out for the Shadow Nova. Easily solo'ed by most non-caster classes, those without a stun or a 'hold 'em and get away to range DPS' ability might have a bit of trouble.

The pack itself spawns @ the stairs beside the Shado Pan Assault cavern, leading up to the troll area; they have a 2-4 minute respawn timer. One of the best ways I've found outside Trove Coffers to farm the books for Zandalari Library Card.

Keep in mind that this location is also a pat-path for the Mighty Devilsaur (90 Elite quest mob) and a 90 Elite Direhorn spawns at the same point to pat to the Shado Pan Assault cave. So watch where you stand when DPSing them down.

Commento di Ibetrolling

I've been working at this achievement for some time now. Mainly i've been just farming various mobs on the isle. From this i've only seen the Frayed and Blood-Spattered journals. More recently i've taken a different route and been focusing on farming the 3 different incantations- Incantations of Vu, Deng, and Haqin. Which are used to summon spirits to fight which drop a Fortuitous Coffer. There isn't always a journal in the coffer but most of the time there is. Not sure if it's just me or if each one drops a specific journal which is what i've seen myself.
Incantation of Vu - Iron-Bound Journal
Incantation of Deng - Waterlogged Journal
Incantation of Haqin - Torn Journal

Commento di Ilsk

I have been hunting these for quite some time. After looting multiple copies of Blood-Spattered Zandalari Journal, I decided to stop vendoring the journals as I got them. The journals started dropping one by one - the ones I still had not looted - and I could finally complete the achievement.

Commento di Chevehunter

This is a fail achievement. The developers have no business using RNG for an achievement except for Feats of Strength. If you did not get this achievement during Phase 1, you are doomed to hours and hours of mind numbing grinding. I am done with every achievement in the zone, have been, but still cannot loot a blood-spattered journal. My bank is full of all the other journals. Put in a ticket, like I did, to tell them to increase the drop rates.

Commento di Cassandre123

For those interested, I've submitted a graph summarizing the likeliness to get the achievement completed in N kills, depending on how many different books you've already looted. In the case you still need all 5 books (purple graph), the numbers match those of the formal solution detailed in Fylwind's post above.

I'll edit with a link should the screenshot not be approved.

Happy hunting!

Commento di egzosm

Ok. You want to do this achievement and do not know how to increase your chance to loot these journals everyday? Here are the things you should do.

1. Do the dailies on the Isle of Thunder. The journals are tend to be dropped by the trolls on the island (altough with a really rare drop rate like %0.6 max), so while doing dailies it is probable to kill a set of trolls at least guaranteed in the second and third phase.
2. Kill Nalak every week. With a very small chance it is seen that journals are contained in Scrigno Toccato dalla Tempesta.
3. Loot Tesoro del Re del Tuono once every week to increase your chance to get Forziere Portafortuna. Which the journals can be contained in these coffers with a probability of %3 which is pretty high.
4. If you kill the rares on the island, you have the chance to get Chiave del Tesoro di Lei Shen which you can use to enter the solo scenario where you increase your chance to get more Tesoro del Re del Tuonos. In the solo scenario try to complete it on time and try to kill the boss and try to loot the chests he has on its back and the chests on the stairs to increasr your chest to get new keys.
5. Another way to get the Forziere Portafortuna item, you can summon the 3 bosses (Signore del Fulmine Vu,Mastro Forgiatore Deng,Haqin delle Cento Lance) which have a %99 drop chance to get the coffer. Just be sure that you do not get into a party and be the only one who summons the boss because of the fact that with a dps char you can easily solo the boss and get the coffer for yourself.
6. Just grind the trolls in the whole island.

Happy hunting!

Commento di Shadowypain

Around (39,74) on the Isle of Thunder, is a large group of trolls. I actually got 2 books off of that giant group. Just go around that area and kill trolls while you wait for that group to respawn. Make sure you use defensive cooldowns to survive.

Commento di Furydeath

Been 4 days of farming for the last book I need. Sure is fun.

Commento di Furydeath

Drop rate will be uped on all the books in 5.3 woooo

Zandalari NPCs on the Isle of Thunder should now drop Zandalari Journals needed for the Zandalari Library Card achievement more frequently. The sell value of Zandalari Journals to vendors have been decreased to adjust for the increased drop rates.

Commento di Chardys

As of 5.3, these can now also be found in the Shiny Pile of Refuse dropped by Oondasta.

Commento di marmotul

Blizzard increased the drop chance for these so now it won't be that hard(i hope) to get that last journal needed for the achievment.

Commento di Mormolyce

If you have alts that spend time on Isle of Thunder you will likely get scrolls on them. Which is frustrating as the coffers are pretty useless to your alts seeing as this achievement doesn't have account wide progress. But you can actually ensure you get them on your main even if they're on the same account - group up with your alt, your main and one other character. Use the scroll on your alt and swap to your main - ensure that the other character survives through the swap to keep the mob in combat. I dual boxed another alt for the third character but you could ask a friend just as easily. A patient friend.

Fiddly and annoying, but at least you're getting your chance at a journal on the right character. I only have the Blood-Spattered Journal left and if I got it on an alt I'd just die :P

Commento di Kaileena12

I know this achievement says you have to loot from trolls on Isle of Thunder. But in case anyone was wondering, books purchased off the auction house DO NOT count.

Commento di bcimhe

Stormsea Landing is the best place to finish this achievement. In about an hour of grinding, I had 5 of the books, including the last one I needed. Happy hunting.

Commento di xphile2012

I was able to get all the books needed to complete this in just under an hour by grinding the troll mobs at Stormsea Landing. Lots of trolls and fast respawn time. Popped a Potion of Luck for good measure and made out with a lot of gold and mats to boot.

Commento di Hrobertgar

I am curious if anyone else has experienced a possible location bias on the drops. The increased drop rate since 5.3 was welcome when I chose to farm to complete this. I only needed Waterlogged Journal and over about 1-2 hours over a couple days I looted:
5 Torn
3 Frayed
1 Iron-Bound
0 Blood-stained
0 Waterlogged
and about 10 Chests
and misc greens, etc

So I decided to farm more focused by the shore (where a programmer assigning drops might think things would get water-logged) and the next one that dropped was my water-logged :)

It could be a fluke, but given how many of the others I was getting by cycling thru repeating inland areas, I was just wondering if anyone else had a similar experience.

Commento di swedengamer

In about 2-3 hours of grinding mobs at Stormsea Landing at Isle of Thunder, I got 3 Iron-Bound Zandalari Journal, 2 Waterlogged Zandalari Journal, 1 Frayed Zandalari Journal, 1 Blood-Spattered Zandalari Journal and 1 Torn Zandalari Journal. This might just be based on luck but I did get all 5 books for the achievement in one spot.

Commento di nelsoncs

If you use the addon Rarity, you can track how many chances you've had to obtain the books. Here's the NPC ID list taken from the loot table for Torn Zandalari Journal:

70529,69474,69298,69517,69531,69475,69198,69657,69527,69297,69295,70290,69518,69666,69507,70286,70521,69482,69195,70236,70328,69171,69294,69223,69225,69170,69296,69224,69379,69865,69144,69909,69302,69285,70291,69254,70401,69255,69532,69397,69065,69286,69269,69200,69281,69665,69390,69559,69256,69272,69524,69925,69155,69154,70557,70230,69300,69910,69906,69927,69136,70176,69916,69663,69455,70285,69538,69899,69301,69388,69905,69312,69911

Commento di Qintus

Can also be looted from s.

Commento di adelaespriella

ARRGG, I farmed for 1 hour and got Diario degli Zandalari Logorox10 and nothing else

Commento di Chomaro

Can anyone confirm that these are still dropping post 6.0 and that it may still reward the now-FOS if you finish the now hidden criteria?

(I managed to miss that the criteria and title would be changed post 6.0 and am still missing one book).

Commento di skag

Weird thing: I had a Forziere Portafortuna in my bags, which only had a couple of Elder Charm of Good Fortune left in it (already had 20 of those). I also had one of the books in my inventory. At the vendor I sold the book and when I clicked on the coffer again, the last book I needed for the achievement popped up. I'm very sure it wasn't there when I first opened it

Commento di KrystalDragon

I'm not certain if Bliz upped the drop rate, but I farmed all 5 books in about 1.5~2 hours. I received numerous duplicates and tons of greens/cloth to auction off. Bring a mount to sell stuff to, your going to need it!

My method: If it was vaguely troll-like, I killed it. If it said it had something to do with a beast (beast master, beast tamer, etc.) I went out of my way to kill it as they seem to drop things more often. I spent about half an hour in the Za'Tual area, and then would move the areas next to Nalak and spend half an hour there, back and fourth just for variety. There are little potions that sparkle and some of them give you a speed boost. So I clicked those if the were convenient.

Happy farming!

Commento di souxsie

easiest way to farm all four of them- go to thrown of thunder, clear first area, rinse and repeat. confirmed that all 4 drop from this method

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Assetato di sapere

Depreda i libri rari dei Troll Zandalari sull'Isola del Tuono elencati qui sotto.

Requisiti

	Diario degli Zandalari Rilegato in Ferro
	Diario degli Zandalari Stracciato
	Diario degli Zandalari Fradicio

	Diario degli Zandalari Schizzato di Sangue
	Diario degli Zandalari Logoro

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Wowhead's Isle of Thunder Content Guide

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