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Commento di 207575

Anybody know if you have to GET one from the box or simply HAVE one?

Commento di TK421

Blizz has stated that they want the overarching achievements for each holiday to be uncommon, yet reasonably attainable. This is why they kept Sinister Calling on the achievement Hallowed Be Thy Name, but removed A Mask for All Occasions. The first was deemed reasonable in the scope of one holiday period, the second not.

In this case, obtaining the Lovely Black Dress from a box isn't that much more rare than getting the Truesilver Shafted Arrow, but odds of getting both in one festival is apparently too low for Blizz to deem reasonable, especially given the relatively short duration of this particular holiday.

So why not allow getting one of either the dress or the arrow to fulfill the requirement for Fool For Love? Well, statistically the odds of achieving at least one of two different events are significantly higher than the odds of each event considered separately, and apparently those odds are too high for Blizz to justify as "uncommon." So by requiring one item and not the other, they are able to arrive at a mathematical medium that places the odds where they feel is just right for their "uncommon, but reasonable" philosphy.

Edit: And now Perma Peddle's been taken off Fool For Love completely. One starts to wonder if Blizz is stepping back from their position and will just be handing out the Violet Proto-Drake wholesale. How far will they go in the coming months?

Commento di Evard

As of today, I have seen a Lovely Black Dress on the auction house on alliance darkspear so I guess it is still tradable.

Commento di drmilo

It's randomly dropped off, when you speak with npc-s with love sign.

Commento di dakoth

Can anyone confirm or deny whether looting it from a Pledge of Adoration will make any difference? Seeing as the wording calls for a Gift of Adoration, but you can get it from both...

Commento di 222355

Confirmed, dropped today twice in a row from Pledges of Adoration in Stormwind (while I was trying to get the Stormwind gift of adoration) and achievement popped.

Commento di Ruhler

I got this item from my first gift I received; from one of the Guardians in Undercity.

Commento di raegun

The dress looks pretty cute on male blood elves. :)

Commento di 288624

I isn't as rare as people think. During this year celebrations I got 4 dresses, peddlefeet and 2 baskets. It's pretty harder to get Peddlefeet - you need luck.

Commento di 148486

I just finished the "Love Fool" achievement *without* obtaining the dress. Maybe it is off the list then?

Commento di 324532

i still can find npc's with heart :)) why ? still no luck on my black dress

Commento di Maed

This was added to the "Fool For Love" meta-achievement in 3.1. This change comes along side only requiring 6 out of 8 candies for "Be Mine!". People who have already completed the meta keep the achievement, even if they don't have this one.

Commento di 424187

The box containing this dress can be bought for 20 loves tokens ( 20 lovely charm bracelets, 200 love charms ) There is a possibility of 4 dresses dropping so you have a 25% chance to get the drop however this may change depending on how common other dresses are.

Commento di 349798

You can't just say that it's a 25% chance of dropping because there are only 4 kinds... That would be like saying that the love rocket has a 10% chance of dropping because the boss only has 10 drops.

Commento di 542903

It seems reasonable in this case to conclude that there is a 25% chance of getting the black dress when there are 4 dress color possibilities. And 2008mike did note that he is assuming equal drop rate for each dress type.

Commento di Pseudocool

The drop date statistics indicate that the drop rate of a Lovely Black Dress is about 25%.

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50160#contains

Commento di Kailhun

I wouldn't mind the 25% droprate or the fact that I keep getting blue dresses, if only the damn lag didn't make farming the charms such a pain!

Commento di 456440

Great place to farm for the charms is Sholazar Basin. I just run around the Sapphire Hive killing wasps and get plenty. My big problem is I hate going to Darn and the Exodar >.<

Commento di Kestrelon

You won't get the achievement if you purchase the dress from the AH either; I just tried out of sheer curiosity. Don't waste your money! (Many people on my server have apparently not figured this out; the dresses range anywhere from 20-80g in the AH, and there's a TON of them, so there must be a market.)

~ K

Commento di 359919

Got one on the very first box, my guess is you all have just been experiencing terrible luck... it has not been lovely nor on your side unfortunately.

Commento di 547655

You dont need to do this achievement for the Fool For Love one.

Commento di 544089

I have opened more than 12 dress boxes and I still have not received a black dress. Does anyone know the drop rate?

Commento di 784747

Just curious, but why is the achievement only for the dress? I mean, it should be the suit if you are male and dress if you are female. Or even better (as I have nothing against either sex wanting the opposite), leaving it up to the player to get either the black dress or black suit to get the achievement.

Commento di 615081

No way that this has a 25% drop. As more people above, I have opened about 30 boxes so far (last year and this year) and mostly got red and purple dresses.

Commento di 634619

Going by my rate its a 100% drop - opened 1 box, ding.

Strange they made it black one, and why not make the achi for the set of 4.

Commento di salor

Guys does any body know if you get the archievment if you buy the dress from the AH ?

Commento di 81639

Look at it the bright way, at least these dresses looks good on your bankalts. :)

To quote Monty Python;

"Some things in life are bad,
They can really make you mad,
Other things just make you swear and curse.
When you're chewing on life's gristle,
Don't grumble, give a whistle.
And this'll help things turn out for the best...

And... always look on the bright side of life...
Always look on the light side of life..."

Commento di 585003

I'm not complaining about this achievement because it's not part of the meta, but just wanted to let anyone else experiencing terrible luck know they aren't alone. I've spent all my tokens from dailies and bracelets this year on dress boxes and still don't have this achievement. Not to mention I tried unsuccessfully last year as well. I guess the 25% drop rate just isn't high enough for me. :-(

Commento di Lorrain

Actually, chances are 50/50...either you get one or you don't no matter how many different types of drops there are. Assuming the drop rate is aprox 1 in 4, then the probability is 25% for each box. As for the odds, the above posters are correct in their calculations. Chances, odds and probabilities are three different things with three different calculations.
Now...I've just opened my 11th box and nada. Guess I'll just keep trying.

Commento di 754515

I understand the frustration of Energizer84 since i am in the same situation.i have all the other colors but not the damn black one so 50/50 is out trough the windows.

Commento di Threepoint14

Not trying to rub it in, but Lovely Luck was on my side. First box I bought and the black dress dropped. Lovely Luck to everyone still trying <3

Commento di Yairdv

got it first try, I feel so lucky...!

Commento di 829815

2 hours to go, and I just got the black dress! Took me quite a few boxes though.

Blue, Red, Blue, Blue, Red, Red, Purple, and today finally the black dress. Yay 7000 achievement points! :-)

But that naughty RnG almost screwed my again...tssssss...

Commento di Longeria

As an achievement- junkie to get as many achievements I can get on 1 char. I notice I didnot have this one on my main. Although it is account wide, as many other, if you get it on your main char you gain 10 points up.

Wish me luck to loot it this year.

BTW, it is the only achievement I don't get on my main yet in totale of all my world events.

Commento di midobu

*** You need to buy A DRESS NOT A SUIT! You need to buy a *** Lovely Dress Box to receive a Lovely Black Dress to get this achievement. *** Do not buy a *** Dinner Suit Box there is ABSOLUTELY NO Black Dinner Suit! ... After I bought Ten Dinner Suits then I realized I made a terrible mistake... even I have a female char... still I should say that I am even lucky to have days to make up for it! (I have come this thread couple times already and I could not figure out what I did wrong believing that a Lovely Black Dress has a very low drop rate. But a Lovely Black Dress has a 24% regular drop rate. So you should get around ONE Lovely Black Dress out of FOUR Lovely Dress Boxes. Hopefully this information will help few others like me...) And DO NOT buy a Lovely Black Dress in Auction House because it WON'T COUNT as your achievement. After note: I decided to make a whole collections of suits and dresses. Today I opened three Lovely Dress Boxes from my three different chars and I got two Lovely Black Dresses! So, this quest should be easy to complete if you know what to do correctly.

Commento di Ilaya

In case you got Lovely black dress from Lovely dress box and still no achievement (provided you don't have it done on other character), you can try to contact support for help.

UPD.: Bug was fixed, according to forums. If you get a black dress now from a box, all works fine. If you received it a few days ago and didn't get the achievement, maybe, submitting a ticket would be a good idea.

Commento di Briielyn

Just wanted to post my personal drop rate:

6 Lovely Red Dresses
4 Lovely Purple Dresses
1 Lovely Blue Dress
then finally.....
1 Lovely Black Dress for Fortuna in amore

For a total of 12 boxes needed (240 Love Tokens - eeek!) for my achievement! I would personally recommend using your tokens FIRST for all the other achievements first as this is not required for Pazzo d'amore and can be a bit of a token dump if you get some bad luck on your side!

Commento di Noxbag

I was finally able to loot the obligated dress for this achievement! I will provide a helpful tip, but here were my stats:

This ran me for a total of 280 Emblema d'Amore(s) (before I received the black dress.) Although it's possible to obtain the Vestito Amoroso Nero from the Confezione del Vestito Amoroso on your first attempt, it's not advised to do so unless you don't need any other items for the event. It's possible to save tokens elsewhere, please read my comment on the Love is in the Air event page for more information. :)

Commento di Lintian

It seems that at some point they changed the drop rate for all four dresses to be the same. I got a black one on my second try.

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